Re: Is logic taught to UK school children?



On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:26:00 UTC, anw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Dr A. N.
Walker) wrote:

: In article <44bfd9a1$0$22105$ed2619ec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
: Damian R <theseus01@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: >I'm probably laying myself open to a severe verbal beating here.
:
: Only if Ian gets himself into "grumpy old men" mode,
: which is usually only when dealing with fools.

And when I am making a fool of myself, of course.

: >I can't speak for others, but I do my best to get students to see the
: >interconnectedness through the A level course. [... much snippage ...]
:
: OK, but that makes you very unusual. It's a very patchy
: thing. Good schools have the sort of ethos you describe, and
: often have the maths dept well-equipped to teach Maths and FMaths
: with "plenty" of decent graduates.

The last school I visited to do some maths in employed a teacher
solely to deal with A level students and all levels of gifted and
talented. Drop in sessions, enrichment, encouragement - and a
quadrupling in further maths candidates over four or five years. If
only ...

: Or in vectors, where the first resort is to
: put things into x,y,z components and piggle with algebra/trig
: instead of thinking about magnitudes and directions first.

"Piggle"? I loooooove that word!

: >And the A level papers do try to make students think more, [...].
:
: I agree, and I'm not one of the doom/gloom merchants saying
: that A-level maths is stupidly easy. But there is still too much
: "signposting", too much rote, and not enough encouragement [at
: least, going by the "official" solutions and comments] of original
: thought. "Improving, but could do better." [OTOH, if they *did*
: do better, it would make the situation of students stuck in sink
: schools/areas even worse.]

See John Clare's "Any Questions" from the Telegraph a few days ago [1]
for some hilarious questions from a Leisure and Tourism exam for
schools, in which the correct answers practically stand out in letters
of fire above the page.

Ian

[1]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=P8&x
ml=/education/2006/07/15/edquestions15.xml
.



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