Re: "...delicious meat!"; R4 'Culture Shock'; BBC WS 01:30 GMT 17 JUL 2007



FCS wrote:
On Jul 29, 6:36 pm, Blue Sow <janet.r...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
FCS wrote:
On Jul 28, 11:15 am, Blue Sow <janet.r...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
FCS wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:09 am, Blue Sow <janet.r...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
FCS wrote:
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As far as context goes, all sorts of people
say all sorts of things to tappesterres and
especially as the night goes on.
Perhaps you could explain what the word 'tappesterres' means and from which
language it is taken.

English.

Either of the Spenserian or Chaucerian variety.


Thanks.


In this instance I derived it from Tappestresse,
but the difference is purely in gender and the
licensed trades have more of a history of involving
both than tapestry weaving (seamstressing) does.

And is this how you earn your honest crust? I imagine the hours of working must be quite taxing.

It may not be in widespread use now, with the norm
being to talk of barmen and barmaids

I would go further and venture that it is not in use at all.
Few people speak Middle English these days.

[snip]

> It's also a nice term to have at hand for historical
fiction. If I've brought to bear on it a form which
isn't there in (late-) Middle English would you know
the correct ending?

A quick look at a ME dictionary, and a general search, revealed no results for either form. A search of the ME Corpus (prose and poetry) also revealed no results for either form.


I have not heard (or read) that phrase until this moment.
Neither has the on-line OED (as recommended elsewhere in this group).
Its usage has been informal in my experience
so far, yes. Although I may have seen it in
print, or something very similar, I could not
stand before a judge and state I definitely have.
Informal usage is not a barrier to acceptance into the OED. The amount of use
is a determinant so perhaps if someone else uses it, it may yet achieve glory.

Not making it into print is though.


That does not apply as OED monitors electronic communications as well as printed paper. So, the term has already crossed that 'barrier'.


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Blue Sow
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