Re: 'Niss' or 'Nis'

FCS wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:36 am, Blue Sow <janet.r...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
FCS wrote:
On Jul 9, 12:30 pm, Blue Sow <janet.r...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


According to the script, it is spelled 'niss', so spelled backwards, gives 'ssin'.

I forget how many Nazi's it's claimed still
live in Scotland under (false) Polish identities.
It's rather more than a handful.


What, I wonder, does that have to do with the topic at hand?
I neither know, nor care, if the claim is true or false.


The context which you gave was a '60s working
class environment and the interpretation I
offered says more about the possible values
the author wished to convey than about mine.
Did I give that context?
I hope not because it is not relevant.

I thought it was. Evidently I was wrong.


Indeed so, but not to worry.


Yet you've come back at me a few times with a
strong Mental Health aspersion.
There is no aspersion there, nor any reference to your mental health.

Suppressed inclinations are not generally considered
healthy was the gist of it, so far as I'm aware.

I suspect that would depend on the inclination.
Suppressing the inclination to murder every thirty-third person to pass you in the street would perhaps be considered extremely healthy.
Suppressing inclinations which are natural, and legal, may or may not be unhealthy but is almost certainly pointless.


Your frequent references to christian deities, non heterosexual persons, etc.
say more than enough about you.

I'm not convinced they say what you think, or
that your disinclination to say what you think
outside of stock put-downs that are essentially
vague, as above, leads me to panic the way you
want.

I am perfectly happy to say what I think on any topic on which I have some sort of opinion. Did you have a subject in mind?

I doubt that I use 'stock put-downs' as I am not likely to know any.
More importantly, I would not want you to panic. That you think I would is a little bizarre perhaps.


there is also the widespread sniggering about
the "Nuremburg position" (and accounts of it
being practised) to consider. Although my own
[...]
"'tis", "plausible", "Platonism" is widespread
enough it was a dialogue-cue to avoid confusion.
That would be consistent with ss-in

I am sure that you believe that. I am unable to see why.

Back to religion a moment.
Hinduism, and Sikhism to a lesser extent, are
congnisant of the range of human sexual preferences
but even within those societies same sex activity
is frowned upon.

So? What has same sex activity to do with a late sixties crime drama?
None is depicted in the drama. The persons who are called 'niss' which is anyone that the central character thinks is less intelligent than he (almost everyone) exhibit no characteristics which may be interpreted as being non-heterosexual. Quite the reverse.

Despite whether or not any supposed deity, in
any form, actually offered any teaching on the
matter, those religions taking Judaism as their
basis are far more likely to see same-sex acts
as a "sin" than not. Their term not mine

Again, why oh why do you insist on introducing homosexuality into the discussion?


Except that what people believe, and why, interests
me. This is not the same thing as a profession
of belief.

It interests me a great deal too, but you have not actually linked the question of religion or variations in sexual activity to the topic.


Surely made-up words themselves imply obscenity,
or there would be no need to make them up?


In the present instance, it might have replaced '***', which would not have been permitted on public television at the time. The question of whether '***' is an obscenity is open to debate but it would have fitted the context.
It is quite difficult to replace 'niss' with a single sexual swear-word throughout the series. One could take the view that 'niss' represents every known swear-word and replaces different words with each use. But again, that has nothing to do with gay sex or christians.


The Neighbours, and later Kath & Kim, staple: "Rack
off!" for example--though I'm sure they're gone the
whole hog and said "fucking" in one episode I saw this
last 6 months or so. Perhaps it is the Aussie equal
to the British "Bog off" and is widespread in use.

You may want to allow that the term may be an example of Australian English and not simply a substitute for what an English person would say. This is perhaps what you mean in your final sentence of the segment quoted above.
I do not watch that type of programme so cannot comment beyond that.


Otherwise it's another example of a made-up phrase
that was coined to imply an obscene, and sexual,
phrase in daily use but frowned up in broadcasting,
and one which similarly hasn't passed into common
usage.

This is the point at which we disagree.
Your preoccupation with sexual matters is one you freely admitted previously.
Why must every nonce word be sexual? Some certainly are of course, but I offered a word then considered 'obscene' in English ... ***. It is not a sexual word. Nor does it imply that the unmarried parents, or children thereof, must have been gay.

I merely throw a club at your balls as you
serve them.

I give you Ogham's razor to use and you turn
around and try to slash my face is more the way
I see that one. 8?).


To misquote a phrase, well you would say that, wouldn't you?


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Blue Sow
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