Re: Suddenly, I've lost the plot....



On 16 Sep 2005 07:23:30 -0700, "JaffaB" <jaffa_brown@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>>It would be laughed at if they
>>advertised for taxi drivers who had 6 years with Mondeos and rejected
>>people who drove only a Vectra for example, but that is effectively
>>what they are doing.
>
>Sorry, this is not a good comparison - both are cars. What you refer
>to is somebody advertising for train drivers, and somebody turns up who
>has captained a boat and says its the same. Its not. If somebody
>works in visual basic or VB.NET, they want somebody who has used it.
>Having somebody who has developed in Pascal is all fine, but that
>person will be lost in a VB.NET world and would not only be
>un-productive, but would be asking for help from others and slowing
>them down.

That's not the usual case though - if you take someone fluent in Delphi, with a
month's self training in VB.Net, they will be a vastly better option than
someone who came from VB6, because the critical factor isn't the IDE or the
language, but the OO mindset.

>
>All you have to do is take a look at the skills required matrix that
>appears in Computer Weekly, and you will see that it is now a Microsoft
>World. the top skills are SQL Server, VB, VB.NET, VBA and so on. The
>'legacy' skills of Cobol, Pascal, Delphi etc are listed, but they are
>way, way down on the list.

It's not sensible to equate COBOL or PASCAL with Delphi. Delphi is an entirely
modern tool, of exact comparison in technical terms with C# on Visual Studio.

>
>As for leaving your DOB off a CV, this wouldnt work anyway. Afterall,
>nobody employees without an interview.


If you're talkin contracting it always was different, and I could easily pass
for 50, but unfortunately 50's way over the top anyway
>
>As per my last email, use the knowledge you have an expand on it where
>experience counts. If the time to retire thing is an issue, there is
>always contracting.

Which is exactly what I said now doesn't work - poisoned by suits.


>I started off in programming (originally Pick, then VB) and whedn it
>was clear that young blood was snapping at my ankles, I had to jump
>away and now do IT consultancy. I may a good living out of it. Its
>based on the skills I obtained as a programmer. You have to think
>sideways sometimes.

I see most non-technical jobs as very second rate. It's the driven imperatives
of the sharp-end of development which h ave kept me interested for all these
years.

Anyway I have a plan :-)

--
Jim
polymoth
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