Re: Ping: Hackintoshers.

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:10:34 +0100, thewildrover@xxxxxx (Andy Hewitt)
wrote:


I tend to 'use' Apps that are sat on the desktop or in a handy self
building menu? Outside that I rarely have need to touch the system.

Yes, that's one thing I hate too, having bundles of apps lined up on the
desktop.

Then de-select the check box that offers to put an icon on the
desktop. Or delete it. ;-) I's have to say that whole process is
easier (for me) than /putting/ a shortcut to an app on the OSX desktop
(I've had to ask here several times and the answers haven't always
been straightforward).

[..]
Of course it doesn't. Mac OS is not written to be installed on any
machine, only those that Apple makes.

Yup, that's the 'special hardware'. The point was it's easy to

integrate the hardware and software when you make them both so it's
not really fair to compare the lack of 'issues' with Apple hardware /
OS's with the alternatives (and I'm not saying you were, just in
general).

That's probably a very good point actually. It's not just me though, the
entire world is always comparing Macs with 'PCs'.

And some more vehemently that others. ;-)

FWIW, I believe they
are aimed at different markets anyway. Apple don't make a cheap computer
that competes with the usual cheap boxes that fill the stores, and
appeal to many users that just want a low cost machine, so comparison is
most certainly unrealistic.

Indeed, especially from a very simplistic viewpoint. Like my laptop
for Dad enquiry. £850 to get a 13" 'Apple Laptop' versus £250 to get
'a 15" laptop'. Now, if the Apple laptop was going to be 3x more
reliable and he was going to ever wear either out, or the Apple did
things (he wanted) and the other didn't (other than running OSX I
mean) I guess it might make sense or could be justified (if
justification was required etc). He's happy to spend around £1000 on
this but I'm not sure he knows what he's going to get ... be able to
do ... even if he spends the extra £500+.

If you feel the migration (files and person) would be easy from OS9 to
OSX then it would be money well spent.

Start building a PC with well specced components, maybe sticking to ones
that are nearer to known standards, and you soon end up near the price
of a Mac, run it on a comparative OS, and you should find similar
performances, and good reliability.

Probably, however I've /never/ spent Apple money on a PC and always
got what I wanted and done everything with it I've ever wanted
(something I couldn't have done on said equiv Apple hardware ... like
playing my type of games). Horses for courses etc.


Aye, Ubuntu has impressed me very much.

Yup, me too. I now have a /huge/ stack of Live Linux CD's now and
several versions installed on machines here and pen drives etc. Ubuntu
seems to be the most 'natural' to me and works on nearly all the
hardware I've stuck it on (20 or so different machines now).

However, in a similar way to OSX (for me) there are some real
dealbreakers that wouldn't be dealbreakers if 1) You didn't /need/ the
particular thing (like my Garmin Mapsource (there is an OSX version
but I don't like it and you need Windows to make it work in the first
place) and there was an OSX / Linux version of Agent. Pan get's very
close on Linux (not tried it on OSX if it exists for it) but misses
one feature I really rely on my usage of newsreaders. So that's it, I
stick with Windows for my primary desktop (on here) but have 64 bit
Ubuntu as the default OS on my Laptop and 32bit as the only OS on my
eeePC because I don't use them for the things that don't work (duh).
All the other machines have Ubuntu as dual boot.


Might be fun to switch that on again, I haven't used it in about three
months.

And?

Not yet, it's sitting in the spare room at the moment, disconnected.

Awww. ;-(


This is the 'productivity' thing again then.

Indeed, in business it can mean a lot.

Ah, 'business' (where the PC still reigns supreme I understand)?

In my case I needed to finish the
task, so I could get on with what I was supposed to be doing (it was one
of thos 'Andy, just knock up this leaflet will you'. It was better for
me to do it at home, where I knew I could complete the job very quickly
and easily (and with much less swearing at the screen!).

Understood. However for every one of you, how many of them are they
happily doing the same (and more) on Windows? It would be for more
difficult for me to do under OSX because I could see myself smashing
the thing out of frustration from the backwards 'logic' (as I see it)
to many of the functions.


This was a 'Learn to speak 10 new languages" ... a personal tutor
thing with flash cards and example spoken phrases etc. Something I
would have imagined would (could?) run via a web browser?

<grin>, righto, understood.

;-)


How much to get iWeb?

It's part of iLife, which I think is about £55 (don't forget that
includes iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie and Garageband), or included free with
most new Macs.

And web space and email for a year ... ;-)


Hmm, I forgot about that (migration) as I didn't want to (try to)
migrate his old stuff if it 1) meant risking anything on his old
machine and 2) if it held the new machine / him back technologically.
I have emailed him asking for a list of what (apps) he uses but no
reply as yet.

Check document types too. If he has any AppleWorks files, they'll need
to be converted before migrating to a PC for definite. Pages can open
AppleWorks 6 files, and Appleworks runs OK in OSX too.

I've asked for his usage list but not had a reply as yet so they could
be down the caravan.

To be fair I don't think Dad has too many stability issues with 9.2
but then maybe he doesn't push his machines that far?

Or installs too much third party stuff. A good clean install of OS 9.2
isn't bad for reliability.

Ok.

Some things may make it not so, but it may not
necesarily be the fault of the OS - bad RAM, bad drives, third party
additions, can all cause instability.

Nothing has changed on his machine for *years*. ;-)

Yes, left well alone is often a good thing.

Yup, when it comes to computer stability it seems so anyway.
Doing a .5G OSX update can take an hour out of your day (it seems you
have missed). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

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