Re: Ping: Hackintoshers.



On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:12:29 +0100, thewildrover@xxxxxx (Andy Hewitt)
wrote:

T i m <news@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:57:25 +0100, thewildrover@xxxxxx (Andy Hewitt)
wrote:
[..]
It's not so much that it's 'breaking', it's the normal operation that's
most irritating.

Ah, then that's something else. ;-)

Yes, I guess so. Actually in fairness, I do find Windows is much more
reliable now than it used to be (say, before Windows 98).

I really (really) guess I must be lucky. I installed XP on this Mini
ages ago now and I really can't say I ever have any issues with it ...
I turn it on, do all I want with it all day long then turn it off at
night. There's nothing I want to do but can't and maintenance / AV /
malware scans whatever seem to be things other people do. When I do
run a scan it generally comes back '0 found' (and this /is/ Windows
remember). ;-)

XP wasn't too
bad, but Vista was a case of 'what on earth were they thing'.

Agreed (and why I / we are still happily on Windows).

I still
get many more things have problems in Windows than I do on the Macs,
despite the very limited time I spend with Windows.

I guess it depends what you mean by 'problems'. Because I'm not that
familiar with the Apple way of doing things many of the things I go to
do I can't, probably because I'm doing them the wrong way.


Yeah, Ubuntu isn't too bad. If I was starting again myself, I'd go with
that I think.

As might I as I find it pretty intuitive (unlike OSX etc), partly of
course because it behaves like what I'm used to (opening / closing
apps etc) and doesn't require any 'special' hardware to run.

the OS gets updated, often requiring multiple reboots,

Like OSX (and Linux) has done here ...

Erm, on occasion. Linux does seem to need more updating, but I expect
that with open source software, the development rate can be quite high.

Could be.


Mac OSX only has a major update that needs a restart once every few
weeks, but Windows seems to need one of those every few days, as well as
the minor updates that are installed every day.

Do you know, I can't remember the last time I restarted Windows
because of an update ... it must be months <make me think so goes and
checks>, nope, one update for Defender and that's it. Maybe it's
because I'm on XP here and that's pretty mature now or that I get it
to install updates when I'm shutting down anyway <shrug>.

and
the AV software updates,

And just says 'Done' (Avast)

Yes, that's what I've been using lately.

How did you find it?

and then does a scan (which is pretty necessary
to allow in Windows).

Nope, not here it doesn't, never has done and isn't an issue.

They run it as a default setting, and hogs the system while it's
running.

The only thing that scans here on a schedule is Defender (quick scan).

Bearing in mind the amount of time the Laptop we have has been infected,
I leave the scan on.

Ah, right, E's machines. ;-)

That's all before I can do anything productive.

<shrug>

It probably wasn't helped by me only running it every so often, but
still...

Indeed. I bet if I bootcamped into OSX now it would OSX now it would
have a load of OS update and the likes of iTunes, Safari, MobileMe
(none of which I really use and especially on OSX).

Depends on how long ago you ran it.

Well indeed. I might boot into OSX now and see what it says.

Safari had an update a couple of
weeks ago, MobileMe doesn't need updating as such (it's not software).

Sorry, there's something else for mobile devices or summat that pops
up and I refuse.

There have been a few others recently, but mostly model specific
updates.

Maybe they are doing lots on the Mini then. ;-)


<Snip>
However,
when daughter wanted a sheet of sticky address labels printed she
emailed him the request and they were ready by the time she got round
there (30 mins later). ;-)

Yeah, I could do that too.

See, it's not something I've ever wanted or needed so I'm not 'set up'
for it (no laser printer or sticky label sheets etc). However, if I
wanted / needed to do so I'm sure I could (under XP).


Do what, run all Windows packages?

No, speak all the languages. It's been in the OS for almost two decades.

? The offer I got by email was for one that said XP/Vista, Do they
/also/ do one for Mac and/or Linux then or are we talking about a
different product?

FWIW, I have used the Serif software on a PC, and I don't think I'm too
worried about it not being on the Mac to be honest :-).

And that's fair enough. Daughter has now set-up her website via Serif,
WebPlusX4 and done it all herself, something I'm pretty sure she
wouldn't have been able to do all by herself had it not been 'pretty
easy'. Especially nice that the whole thing only cost me £29 for the
software and a years Web space / domain / email. ;-)

<snip>
The gambler in me says 'go with what's most common for
the best chance of stuff working' and so far that's not been proven
wrong. Now, if I was doing something important or specific that may be
a different story (like your massive photo collection etc). ;-)

Well, you were also looking for the lowest possible learnign curve too,
weren't you?

Amongst other considerations, yes.

Going with OSX is a no-brainer in that regard. Even with
the differences over OS9, it's still going to be less of a learning
challenge than migrating to either Linux or Windows.

Do you really think that (genuine question)? From dealing with OS9 on
Dads , my own machines and Sheepshaver on here I'd say OSX was
different again.

Not only that, but OSX will be far more stable,

I question that but go on (although from your experiences I can
understand why you might say so). ;-)

and possible more
productive in the long run.

Well, whatever he finds the easiest and the most productive is fine by
me. Whilst that could well be OSX it could also be a very expensive
white elephant (although he could sell it etc).


Cheers, T i m


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