Re: OT: BBC site's old computers quiz

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<1ip5d4r.1j1jvmqu9psvsN%real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

Tim Streater <timstreater@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

Tim Streater <timstreater@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

Tim Streater <timstreater@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

Jon B <black.hole@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[snip]

It's part of the
internet generation,

You think people weren't using the internet 25 years ago?

People were, but not that many. We'd only just started to install
ethernet, back then (at SLAC, this was).

What does Ethernet use at SLAC have to do with the number of people
using the Internet?

Only to the extent that not many people were networked, even at Labs.

You mean labs; but I sort of get your point.

Thing is, Ethernet is merely one of many networking protocols. `Just
starting to install Ethernet' doesn't mean that the place wasn't
networked before, y'see.

Well, in practice it does.

But computer networking began in the 1950s.

There were, so I thought, plenty of things like this around prior to the
1980s:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Ring>

Sure, but not having a general overview of networking in the 70s I don't
know whether the word "plenty" is fair or not. At CERN at that time we
were connecting data acquisition computers to a larger central host at 1
and 5Mbps, but it was point to point again. As with your ref above we
had to make our own hardware and software, but it did get developed to
the point where remote editing, job submission, etc were possible, and
where it was possible to boot your PDP-11 remotely (the "firmware" to
support this on the PDP-11 was 8 bytes long).

So it became possible to entirely dispense with cards and paper tape.
Not everyone trusted this, though. I remember one guy who insisted on
keeping his 24,000 punched cards and used to have 12 trays of them
stacked on a tea trolley that he rolled around.
.

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