Re: No sound...?

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@xxxxxx> wrote:

Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@xxxxxx> wrote:

Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[snip - about `styles']

Guess what, I never read a manual.

Guess what? I've read the damned manuals and never managed to get GUI
WP styles to work in a consistent or useful fashion.

OK, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have written that.

Yeah, but why write it in the first place? It does nothing but add to
the destructively critical tone of your reply.

And don't give me any *** about that only being in my head. Stop
denying things by trying to blame them on the fact that I'm slightly
potty. I'm only /slightly* potty, you know. See if you can accept that
I'm right about some things, eh?

Just for a change?

[snip]

(Okay, so OmniGraffle and OmniOutliner have manuals now, so I could
learn how to use them without much bother I expect, but you tell me that
the menus say what they do in plain English, implying that that's enough
to learn to use the app).

Well, it worked for me. However, your own preference for LaTeX for
documents will almost certainly mean that you've never come across this
feature before, as you can globally change such things anyway. This is a
feature that's been in GUI word processors for a *long* time (ISTR it
being there in 'Write-On on the Atari).
[snip]

And this is the sort of thing that I really, really object to very very
strongly.

Well, yes, and again, I wouldn't have written that either.

You shouldn't have written it in the first place, given that this is a
technical newsgroup.

You see, I asked you what's basically a *technical* question, with an
option of explaining *how it is that I might have understood*.

Yes, I know. However, you own words, or lack of, implied that you maybe
hadn't come across such a feature.

No, you made that assumption without any basis for it at all.

For some of this, I couldn't give you a 'technical' answer, I tend to
work by the seat of my pants, so to speak. Many tasks I just 'do',
without thinking about it.

Okay, if so, say so. Don't hurl the personal abuse.

[snip]

Why do *I* get these personal remarks about the inside of my head? Why
do so many people here choose to arrogate to themselves the idea that
they know how I think and then choose to tell me how I think and what's
wrong with me when I pose technical questions?

Actually, it's you that makes it personal Rowland.

Huh? Your words:

"However, your own preference for LaTeX for
documents will almost certainly mean that you've never come across this
feature before"

That's you talking about me, you telling me what's what with me. *I*
didn't write that, *I* didn't apply it to me.

*YOU* made the remarks personal by *YOU* writing them directed at me.

"Oh come on, most of it is blindingly obvious - in plain English."

Your words in reply to me again - do you spy an implied criticism of me,
there?

More of your words:

"Well, yes, if you're not prepared to work through menus and try out
stuff, it's not for you."

"What I see is something very simple to do, to me, and for
whatever reason, your inability to try out a menu item that tells you
what it does in plain English."

Your words again - personal remarks about what I do, how I approach the
job, and so on, and they're very critical of me, aren't they?

You see? It's not *ME* who makes these remarks personal - its you,
writing them in the first place. And more:

"Yet the menus, as they are in Mac OS, are all staring at you, telling
you what they do, in whatever language you need them. You don't have to
remember a thing, other than how to operate a menu. That's actually all
you need to learn, how the menus work"

Your words, implying without a doubt that I'm a damned idiot for being
unable to work Mac software because the menus tell everyone perfectly
plainly what to do, yes?

(of course they do not - as any fule kno)

[snip]

I can go on and on and on like this - and these are just examples from
*your* posts. Now, they're not particularly nasty things to say, just
irritating because they're based on false assumptions you have made
about me.

What's most annoying is that you make these assumptions without any
basis at all except your own personal prejudices about me - and then
generally you reject my first explanations of what it is you've got
wrong, and *THEN* repeat your false assumptions some time later.
Although you seem to be getting the hang of not doing that quite as much
as some.

Rowland.


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