Re: Leopard rant - hard shutdowns all the time

T i m <news@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:29:13 +0100, usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Woody)
wrote:


Thanks for my opinion Woody.

Well, yes, reminding you that in your opinion it works.

No, in my real world it works so it isn't an opinion it's a fact. ;-)

No, it is an opinion. You said that basic windows networking seems to
work. That isn't a fact, that is an opinion.

The fact is you can get it to work.

Apart from a while when this windows PC didn't, but in the end that was
kaspersky internet protection protecting me from any form of networking.

And I believe a typical reason why many network problems exist (Win /
Mac etc).

Win certainly, you don't get that problem on the mac.

What, Macs don't have firewall's?

Not generally third party ones, and I wouldn't bother with one anyway.
Its not like its windows with all its services switched on.

I admit big Windows networks aren't as elegant as say Netware when it
comes to advertising services and routes but where is Netware now?

All over my work network, thats for sure.

Interesting.

For only very small values of interesting.


But what does that mean? Something is better because it doesn't do the
job as well but is more common?

No, I was asking a genuine question re Netware. Being a CNI I was more
interested in Netware than 'that other lot' (MS) with their IBM
LanManager network stuff. I just wondered if Netware was actually
still out there?

Yes, it is. I think they are getting rid of it at some point though, as
our company merged with its owner company and they use microsoft stuff,
so I think we go to that.

As are the 'Windows doesn't work' posts to me ... and as you say, this
isn't a Mac advocacy group either.

No, but it is a mac group, not a windows group.

No! I thought it was for the general discussion of mobile phones,
portable music players, cat's a witchcraft? ;-)

Sometimes, but never windows advocacy!

And you wouldn't describe popping up to extole the virtues of windows in
a mac group a fanboi action?

Ah, I see where you are getting confused Woody. I'm not extolling the
virtues simply comparing them as I see and experience them.

No, you are extolling. To compare them you have to provide the positive
and negative. Any negative you will cancel with 'well *I* don't see
that, or in *your* opinion..'.
Without that it is extolling.

If someone said 'How does windows do it', and you replied it would be a
comparison, however, noone asked anything about windows, but you saw a
fault that you wanted to get your point in.

Call it what you want, but it is fanboi ism .


My point is though, I'm not an anything fanboi.

Well, you certainly appear to act like one.

Well, I can't control how things appear to you so ....

Clearly not. But you know, if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck
and quacks, what else do you call it?

I asked the guy with
the Apple sticker on the back of his safety helmet why he stuck one
there? His answer "because I'm proud to be related to Apple
products". He then went on to extol the virtues of his Macbook and how
good it was with photos etc ... I just looked at him blankly ... (I
don't 'do photos' but I have many mates with PC's who seem to manage
ok).

Indeed. You can manage with windows, noone says you cant. And I know
that managing is good enough for some people.

LOL. I was using manage to describe the concept 'getting on very well
thanks' actually. ;-)

I think manage is good. I think that is what people do with windows.
Manage.


Anyway, just because someone is a bigger fanboi than you, doesn't make
you not one.

True. Still, no MS / Intel / XXX Hardware stickers on any of my gear
so ....

Does that make a difference?

You called me an apple fanboi, and I don't have any apple stickers on
anything.



--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
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