Re: Leopard rant - hard shutdowns all the time



Ian McCall <ian@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Although I'm used to many quirks, I am really annoyed by the number of
times I have to hard power-off machines running Leopard.

My own laptop with the 3G connection, I normally have to hard power off
several times a day - five or six isn't an exaggeration. It happens
when the phone loses connection to the net somehow, and Leopard simply
can't cope with it. You ask it to disconnect - it just stays there
saying "Disconnecting" forever - never will and so you can never get a
connection back again. Select restart - no, just shuts all the desktop
etc. down and then hangs with a spinning wait symbol. What it's waiting
for is for the Disconnecting process to die, but we've just established
it won't. Even Terminal is no help with kill -9 - pppd process goes
zombie and won't go away.


Strangely enough (and of no use on this for you), I get the same hang
with the networking on the eee with the 3G modem. However, you can close
that down.

But yet, I have had the network going away (which isn't an unreasonable
thing for a network to do). I also have an external hard disk which is
ok now I am using a really short cable, but used to just slightly run
out of power before on a longer cable, make a click and then just die
until I had restarted (I didn't have to force restart most of the time
though).

It's so frustrating - Leopard just seems utterly rubbish at coping with
unresponsive networks and/or unresponsive processes. Never had this
hassle with Tiger - could always kill stuff, could always restart.
Leopard though...pah.

Here I found tiger just as bad. Either way I think it is about time they
sorted it out.



--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
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