Re: Upgrade to 10.4.11 problems

David Empson <dempson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Larry Stoter <larry@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Recently upgraded OS from 10.3.9 to 10.4.11

Everything is fine except that Calculator, Font Book and Preview won't
work any more ..... everything else, old and new seems to work fine.

Are these no longer in 10.4 and I'm trying to run remnants of 10.3?

They are all standard applications in 10.4 (and 10.5).

If they won't work for you, a possible explanation is that you are
trying run the 10.3 versions of those applications rather than the 10.4
versions.

Exactly how did you install 10.4?

The default is to "Upgrade" your 10.3 system to 10.4. This replaces all
the system software and applications which come with the system with the
new versions, all done in place. If you used this method it is unlikely
the old versions are still present on your hard drive.

I did an upgrade: 10.3.9 to 10.4, immediately followed by the combo
upgrade to 10.4.11

I think I know what happened - for ease of access, I create additional
sub-folders inside the default 'Applications' folder, and spread
application between the different folders. I probably accidentally
deleted the new Applications and kept the old 10.3 applications.

The other options are:

"Archive & Install". This puts your old system aside into a "Previous
Systems" folder and installs a fresh copy of 10.4, then merges some
parts of the old system (such as preferences and user accounts) into the
new one. In this case, your old application versions will have been left
behind in "/Previous Systems/Previous System 1/Applications". You should
be running the new versions, which will have been installed in
"/Applications" (top-level folder).

"Erase & Install". This completely wipes the hard drive (volume) and
installs a new operating system. Unless you had a copy of 10.3 on
another partition or hard drive it is unlikely that the old versions of
these applications would be available.

"Full Install" on a new hard drive or partition, leaving the 10.3 system
on another hard drive or partition. In this case, your old applications
are still there on the other drive and you might be trying to launch the
wrong ones.

If you have done something like an "Archive & Install" then dragged some
applications from Previous Systems into the main Applications folder,
you have probably overwritten the 10.4 versions with the 10.3 ones.

Can I separately re-install these applications without running a
complete OS re-install?

Not easily. There is a shareware tool "Pacifist" which can be used to
install individual items from a system CD/DVD, but you have to do a fair
amount of work in some cases to get everything into the right state. For
example, you should re-run the 10.4.11 combo updater and latest security
updates again (and can't do it via Software Update - you have to
download the specific updaters from Apple), otherwise you will have old
versions of those applications (from 10.4.0 instead of 10.4.11).

The official way to do it is an "Archive & Install" of the entire
operating system (then reinstall all the subsequent updates again).

Thank you - I had forgotten about "Pacifist"! Worked a treat - located
and re-installed the problem Applications :-)

I'm always reluctant to do major OS installations - apart from the time,
as I'm running a G4 card inside a 7600, I use XPostFacto to manage the
install. While it is impressively good, it can occassionally make some
minor errors which take a while to resolve - being able to open the
install DVD and extract a specific application makes things much easire.
--
Larry Stoter
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