Re: OT height
- From: real-address-in-sig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Rowland McDonnell)
- Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:23:49 +0000
David Kennedy
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wrote:
On 1/11/07 16:10, Rowland McDonnell wrote:
David Kennedy wrote:
[snip]
Gosh. Talk about red mist...
<sigh> I see that you have decided to treat all my words with withering
contempt, so please excuse me if I drop my opinion of you by about 25
points.
Yes yes you are quite right - but think a little bit, eh?
I have this thing I call a sense of humour.
Do please pay attention. You came out with your rather offensive and
bigoted claim about me - one that I have heard many, many times before
from many deeply offensive and bigoted Welsh people[1]. So I did my
standard response - which has been developed over the years into a
veritable explosion.
The other side of the coin is that some of the most polite and civilised
people I've ever met have been Welsh people living in Welsh-speaking
parts of Wales, where I have been made to feel very welcome *and they
took the trouble - out of common courtesy - to speak English when I was
around* (and hassled the kids for failing to switch to English when I
was about too - they were being brought up not just bilingual (cheers!),
but also polite).
Okay, you walk into a shop, they're talking in Welsh, you don't expect a
lingo switch and you don't get one - but that's not what I'm talking
about.
I wholeheartedly approve of the resurgence of the Welsh language and the
more it's spoken, the better. I don't like nationalism one little bit
and I don't like the Plaid-approved Welsh that seems to be what one must
speak in order to be fully accepted, and I don't like the
anti-non-Welsh-speaking discrimination that is creeping in to Wales.
Rowland.
[1] Many Welsh people express deeply offensive racist attitudes towards
English people as a matter of routine, and seem to think that it's fine.
And don't tell me they don't: they've said these things to my face. I
live near Wales, btw.
I really don't like racist bigotry - and I happen to be English. And it
turns out that while the English are not the only group to suffer racist
bigotry in the UK, and also don't suffer very bad things from it on the
whole unlike most groups that do suffer it[2], there do seem to be large
chunks of the population of the opinion that it's perfectly okay to
express racist bigotry about the English.
But it's not, and I'm going to bloody well object when it happens.
[2] I'm trying to make that point that for all that we do get it in the
neck from any number of Welsh and Scottish nationalist wankers, it's not
a problem in the same way that getting beaten up by the NF is, if you
see what I mean. Racism against the English isn't a big deal when
looked at in full perspective - but still, it's got to be stopped.
That wasn't what your original comment said.
That's right: my original comment said something different. I had to
add this to explain, so I felt, due to your ignorant responses.
Stop wriggling man.
No wriggling (he said, rather late). Read my post again, and *THINK* -
as I suggested.
Oh, sorry, I know, of course you won't think because you've a bigot
who's already made up his mind.
Rowland.
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