Re: Basic CD player for OS X 10.4 ?

Andy Hewitt wrote:
<ajmoss_throwaway_account_001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If I recall correctly, Quit is dimmed in the Application menu when a
EULA is presented on screen. There is, of course, the "Decline EULA"
button, but Force Quit will do just as well.

Hmmm, OK, messy, but yeah.

Is Force Quit generally a bad idea? I don't mean if you have unsaved
work, but in terms of the stability of the rest of the operating
system?

Possibly, or just drag and drop!

This time last year, I was using a Mac SE/30 running System 6. To me,
even colour Quickdraw is a new-fangled terminology that I don't
entirely trust, and Drag And Drop is a feature of the Mac UI that I
don't think I've ever used in my life.

Blimey, even Windows has it now.

Windows XP? Never used it. Never really gone beyond Windows 98.

Let me just check the Help menu in the Finder...

"Mac Help" -> "What's new in Tiger"

Useful if you're upgrading from Jaguar or Panther, but probably not
much help even to Windows users, let alone people who remember the
Mac v. Amiga GUI flame wars.

Erm, so you missed the line that said 'Switching from Windows' then?

Which, quite unsurprisingly, tells you just the absolute basics.

I was in the Atari ST vs Amiga wars.

That was quite a bit later. I'm talking about people who couldn't
afford a 512KE at the time, let alone a Plus, so were giving serious
thought to buying a 500 quid Amiga A500 to run desktop publishing
programs.

I clicked on the "Fuck you, I'm not signing anything" box, and would
you believe it, the application closed!

Erm, yes I would.

Let me get this straight. That bit about (paraphrased), "This is a
legal contract - do not sign it unless you wish to be bound by its
terms" is a big fat lie? So I should lie to the computer and click
"Agree", when in all honesty I mean to do nothing of the sort?

I assume that's untested in court.

(Besides, under English law, children under 18 cannot sign binding
contracts. Which rather screws up the premise of the EULA, for them at
least.)

Well, those OS are more comparable to Mac OS >9, which also didn't need
all the registrations. What about Win XP, which is more of a comparison
to OS X. That also sends everything off to MS, along with your keycode.

I refuse on a point of principle to use anything with Product
Activation in it.

Fortunately, if I ever need to move up to LBA48 or an NForce4
motherboard, I still have the option of using Windows 2000, which is
(to the best of my knowledge) free of most of this chicanery.

And you forget the incident with MS Office sending off your personal
details in a hidden file the first time you connected to the Internet.

Really? Which version?

You can Google, and discover that I made an equally large stink about
this back in December, when I bought my first Mac Mini, and was equally
belligerent about not filling in all that personal information and
sending it back to Apple, as Tiger 10.4.2 demanded.

No, I'm not going to Google, I'm not really that bothered about it TBH.

You and me both. I've just made a cack-fisted attempt to request help
locating a basic piece of freeware (as I didn't know where to look for
good collections of OS X downloads), and have started a barney. Going
back to look up a similar punch-up I started eight months ago would be
an exercise in tedious futility.

Not if it's on the GNU GPL or Copyleft schemes, for instance.

No, but there is a GPL to read if you want to.

http://gnu.paradoxical.co.uk/licenses/licenses.html

Have you read that yet?

It says something along the lines of: This software and its source code
are freely available. You may create derivative works, but such works
must also be released under the same (free availability) licence as
this one.

It's relevant to programmers, but more or less irrelevant to end users.

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