Re: OT: Spare pair of eyes needed.

On 15/12/05 09:34, in article
1h7ltth.y3hr4bw2q9gmN%poppy.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Adrian Tuddenham"
<poppy.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>>>> Providing a site that works in every browser is impossible and time
>>>> consuming.
>>>
>>> Is it? I have yet to hear of a browser that doesn't support straight
>>> HTML.
>>
>> Ha. Look back far enough you'll see the web littered with obsolete browsers.
>> Its called progress.
>
> Which of those did not render HTML?

Well Lynx wasn't too hot. Many mobile phones can't, hence the decision to
change to list and CSS for the layout so the site could be quickly switched
to being WAP accessible.

>>> My reaction on coming across a site that doesn't display in whatever
>>> browser I happen to be using, is usually the same as Jack's. I click on
>>> the 'Back' button and go and look for someone who actually wants my
>>> business.
>>
>> Which is fine. But why do you insist on using a browser that won't render
>> web pages formatted using modern web standards? You'll have to change
>> eventually....
>
> I do not want to buy new hardware and software in order to do what I can
> already do - and if I find a website which I cannot read because it is
> not fully compatible, I go away and find one which is.

You don't need to buy new hardware or software to use IE 5.1.7 It'll render
websites more accurately, enabling you to use a greater proportion of the
web.

> I don't want animation.
> I don't want a pretty layout
> I don't want fancy fonts
> I don't want huge JPEGs
> I just want something which gives me the information I am seeking
> presented clearly - and there are plenty of websites that don't do that.

Of course. But most people do find websites that use pretty pictures and
layouts more attractive and hence more successful commercially. If your
criteria for a good web site is the above, then I suggest Lynx. A text only
web browser. You'll love it!

Failing that, why don't you use IE? If its because it has Microsoft in the
name... Well that's plain daft.

> How long do you think it will be before Microsoft invent another
> 'standard' that everyone has to chase after?

XHTML and CSS have nothing to do with Microsoft. They are attempts to stop
Microsoft for introducing stupid Windows only extensions to the web.

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