Re: Uber$hiny

James Dore wrote: 
Steve Firth wrote:

Well, having tried Gravity, Agent and at present Thunderbird, their
interfaces suck mightily and all of them are piss poor as newsreaders
compared to MacSOUP which has truly excellent kill file facilities.

Define 'piss-poor'

An interface in which the designer has decided to base the user interaction on frames with no user choice to opt out of frames if they should wish to. So one has a bizarre Windows Explorer based display of newsgroups (and Explorer has always had the suckiest interface to a file system, ever and it carries over even less well to a display of newsgroups), with another explorer-like display of threads and finally a preview window. All locked in one of a few predetermined positions. One a widescreen this means being forced to work through a letterbox.

- for me, a nice simple interface in one window is the
primary concern, swiftly followed by being able to easily see the context of
the message in the thread and the context of the thread in the group. That's
exactly what Gravity does for me.

If it floats your boat, it still sucks as an interface, I think it's more a case of what you are used to rather than being a decent model for an interface.

My use of usenet is such that I don't require filtering, or killfiles, or
anything that complex for a "real man's" newsreader. A search facility is
about it. Get, Read, Post and store - simnply and clearly. I don't need
off-line reading, either.


So use a newsreader that meets your needs.

Thunderbird is so badly broken that wildcards don't work in the message
filters, it can't even process the filters which it automatically
generated. How crap is that?


I'll agree with that! Thunderbird sucks hard.

If you like a news reader telling you what proprtions each window should
have and how they should be arranged in relationship to each other, and
if you want a newsreader that can't thread properly and has a sucky
display of threads, then use it (Gravity). I OTOH prefer the one that
works, MacSOUP.


Um, that was my point - Gravity does thread properly and most importantly,
intuitively.

Bwhahahahahahah, err no it is not by any stretch of the imagination "intuitive". Gravity was deleted from my laptop faster than any bit of software, ever.

Gravity /does not/ fix your window size: you can resize each 
pane, as you can with the other three-pane newsreaders - just grab the handles
on the pane borders. Pineapple news is similar.

Only within the limits of the parent window, it's broken captain and I cannae fix it.

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