Re: Omniweb++
- From: john@xxxxxxxxxxxx (John Robinson)
- Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:13:44 +0100
zoaran substitute <nettid1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Graham Lee wrote:
> > That is all.
> >
> > Well, nearly all. Have been using OW since version 2, but gave up at v4
> > because it had issues with CSS and other features which, well, Safari
> > didn't quite do so badly at. But Safari's UI sucked. Just picked up
> > OW5 and paid for it after about an hour's use, it is great. Their
> > version of tabbed browsing is just so much more...cocoa...aqua...than
> > Safari's is.
>
> It's also a lot easier to use, with more features (eg draggable). I
> have loads of tabs open and drag them around into some sort of order,
> so I can leave a window/tab collection open, and then come back to it
> and know that they're all the tabs I opened while searching for some
> particular piece of info.
I paid for OmniWeb 5 and loved the feature set, but over time I've found
that I can't stand how slow OW5 is when I have a lot of browser tabs
open. The last straw was finding that when OW5 crashed it would not only
lose any bookmark changes since the last shutdown but also 'forget' the
workspace I had open and open the workspace from the last time I closed
OW5 down cleanly. I'm now using Firefox with an number of extensions
which come close to emulating the functionality of OW5's tab management
features: between them, minIT, Tabbrowser Preferences and Duplicate Tab
let me drag tabs around between windows, copy tabs (including, if I
want, the window's history so I can use the Back button in either the
original or the duplicate tab) and even merge two windows containing
tabs into one (removing the window which was 'emptied'.)
For my purposes, Firefox with this combination of extensions falls short
of OW5's tab movement feature set in just two respects. First, for some
reason I can't drag a tab to a position between two existing tabs - I
have to put it at the end of the existing tab set in that window. This
is supposed to work - it's listed as one of the functions of minIT - but
I have a feeling that something in the combination of the three
extensions is stomping on that particular piece of functionality. The
second failing compared to OW5 is that none of these extensions provide
tabs with thumbnail images of the page as OW5 does. But then, when I
used OW5 I usually turned the thumbnails off anyway; multiple pages from
the same site would often be indistinguishable when displayed as
thumbnails, and besides I preferred to save the vertical space for more
tabs. (I don't understand why all other browsers arrange their tabs
along the top of the window; if you're only displaying text labels you
can fit at least twice as many down the side of the window without
sacrificing very much screen width.)
> Make sure you check the box to save windows while browsing (in the
> Workspaces window, I think) because then if you quit (or crash!) and
> restart you don't lose all your tabs. Unlike Safari.
I found a Firefox extension SessionSaver.2 which saves tabs at shutdown
automatically and far more reliably than OW5 ever did, even after a
crash. Admittedly it doesn't emulate OW5's multiple workspace feature,
but then I never used more than one workspace anyway.
If a future release of OW5 got back the stability of earlier versions,
had a bulletproof session saving feature and (ideally) was a bit nippier
when I had a few dozen tabs open I'd be happy to give it another try.
Until then, I'm sticking with Firefox.
.
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