Re: Fedora 9



On Mon, 19 May 2008 01:48:37 +0100, Nix wrote:

On 16 May 2008, Will Kemp spake thusly:

On Thu, 15 May 2008 23:56:36 +0100, Nix wrote:

On 15 May 2008, Will Kemp told this:
I chucked out pulse audio straight away, without even bothering
trying to get things working with it.

I think that's very silly, but if you want to shoot yourself in the
foot that's your privilege.

There's no reason at all why i *should* use it. All audio apps i need
to use work fine without it.

Well, it seems likely that in the not-too-distant future a good few apps
will be talking to PA in preference to other things, and may well have
preferential support for things like sink binding and so on.

Once it gets to that sort of stage i may well have another look at it -
if there's any reason for me to.

But, again, if you don't want to use it, fine. But not bothering at all
strikes me as silly.

It's not silly. I don't need it. Why should i use software i neither need
nor want? You might just as well be arguing that i should install
postgresql "because it's good". But i don't need that either - if i ever
do, i'll install it. The same goes for pulseaudio. I've got plenty of
more pressing ways to waste my time without trying to get something to
work that i've got no use for - just because it's good.

Over those couple of months or so, i read lots about it, posted
messages on fedoraforum, and tried everything i could think of to get
the apps i needed to work working. Without success.

As far as I can see you never posted a thing on the PA mailing list.
(But I may be missing something.)

I never said i did...(???)

If you've got a reason to use it, then that's fine. Please do. But
don't tell me i need it when i don't.

You don't *need* it, but it does such a damn good job of making the
chaos of disparate sound APIs all work at once that it seems silly not
to.

I'm sure postgresql does a damn good job of running a database, too. But
i don't need that either.

I've never even tried esound or arts.

You've never used GNOME or KDE?!

Yeah, i probably switched over from fvwm to gnome 7 or 8 years ago, i'd
imagine (i can't remember now) - and used it practically every day since
then. But i've still never used esound or arts.

If i want a sound server, i fire up jack - which i've been using for
about 5 years now. Most of the time, though, a simple alsa system does
everything i need.

If you're using JACK you're not in PA's target market (yet: although it
looks like it should soon have lower latency than any other sound server
out there, that code has not yet landed).

Good. I look forward to that. Maybe there will be a reason for me to use
it one day. It would be nice to have a sound server that does everything
jack does but has universal support in all the apps i might want to run.


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