Re: Which Kubuntu?
- From: Theo Markettos <theom+news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 22 Apr 2008 21:42:44 +0100 (BST)
Thor <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A pity you couldn't have a similar machine at your place, set it up to get
the updates regularly then burn them to disk and take the disk with you or
post it to where the computer is with instructions on how to use it.
I do plan to do a regular CD run every time I'm there. I want to
minimise the necessity of me doing this - in other words I'd rather the
distro was stable rather than having regular functionality tweaks. I could
probably contrive to make a qemu image or something to grab the updates -
but is there no other way to know what's been updated since $DATE? Or is
the answer 'many DVDs worth' and thus impractical? (I'll probably want a
bit of universe, multiverse and non-free but will attempt to keep these to a
minimum. It's only a basic wordprocessing and web browsing machine, but
will probably want Flash, Java etc)
Ubuntu is basically is the cutting edge of the home user aimed distros
these days and as such probably not really suitable for the situation you
are in.
Isn't that the point of the LTS versions? I'm running Dapper (6.06 LTS) on
a machine at work and it's stable and has very few updates. I was hoping
Hardy would be the same, except for the KDE problem and that I'm too close
to the release date for it to have settled down.
Debian etch has rc3 out now and I have had little difficulty setting it up
on a variety of different machines from pentium 1G to the latest system
that was running vista up to that stage.
What's the desktop environment of etch like? I run it, but only via VNC
which doesn't have a proper desktop set up (I had to fiddle around to even
get a window manager running). Is it as user-friendly as Ubuntu? (For
example, when I install a program it shows up on the relevant menu. When I
run a Windows installer with Wine the program shows up on the 'Other' menu).
As to the suggestion of Mepis elsewhere in the thread, I'd never considered
that. Originally I picked Xandros off Distrowatch or somewhere like that as
the most Windows-like distro. The trouble was the vendor's terribly
interested in commercial tools to run MS Office and there's little user
community. Ubuntu has user community in spades, and has the advantage that
I run it myself. What's the user community of Mepis like? I'm a bit
worried that since Mepis seems to be an initiative by a few people and might
end up as a dead end like Xandros did.
For comparison:
mepislovers.org (main Mepis forum) has about 120,000 posts
ubuntuforums.org has 4.7 million posts
It's a matter of opinion of course but I have never seen the point of even
the stuff in kde3 such as animated windows and icons that leap out at you,
so adding more of that rubbish is not going to appeal to me anyway :)
KDE and GNOME appear to be locked into a Windows mindset and productive new
UI features seem to be stifled. They don't seem to be coming up with ways
to use computers more efficiently, just clone those other people have
thought of. It seems like Apple is the only one doing innovation. (But
this is another thread).
Theo
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