Re: Newbie - fc6 tiscali broadband Sagem modem




"Greg White" <greg@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <ulrlk4-v2h.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
Greg White wrote:
Will a router get me straight through to Tiscali? Will I need to use
the
filter?

Here's what you connect:

incoming line
|
v
filter---> phone (filter is needed by the phone, not broadband)
|
v
Shielded cable
|
v
ADSL modem/router --- Cat5 Ethernet --> (Windows) computer.
|
------------- Cat5 Ethernet --> FC6 computer.

You haven't said whether you have one dual-boot computer (FC6 and 'doze)
or two computers, one a Windows box and the other running FC6 so I've
assumed the latter to show what a router can do for you. Using the setup
I've drawn, both computers can use the Internet at once and can talk to
each other via the router. Each computer can be used by itself: you only
need both running when they need to talk to each other. In addition, all
NAT-capable routers act as fire walls and are almost certainly very
much stronger than any "Windows firewall" as well as being essentially
free.

You configure the router as the end-point of your Tiscali connection.
That takes about 5 minutes to do and you only do it once. The router can
keep the link open even when both computers are off. Only the router
needs to know how to talk to Tiscali. The computers just need to
understand that the router is their 'gateway' to the net and to be given
different network IP addresses: if the Ethernet side of the router has
an IP address of 192.168.1.1 the computers must be given IP addresses in
the range 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254. In other words the Ethernet
cabling is a private network. All three devices on it (router and both
PCs) must be on the same subnet (192.168.1 in this example) and each
must have a different subnet address, e.g. 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2 and
192.168.1.3.

But I can't use this to establish an ADSL connection, can I?

Yes, as explained above.

Checking with DABS I see they offer A "Dabs Value Edimax 802.11g 54Mbps
Access Point & 4-port Router" - would this do or am I being a
skinflint?

Any ADSL router with NAT (Network Address Translation) will do the job

I have two computers - one Windows and the other with fc6.
So the router connects via the LAN port using Cat 5 ethernet cabling?

Yes - don't forget to buy the cable at the same time! Check if the router
needs crossed cables or not, most these days will work with both crossed and
uncrossed but it's worth a check espsecially on the cheaper ones.

To both computers? And then the computers can talk to each other - that is
remarkable!!!


Yes - the router you mentioned has four ports so you can connect upto four
computers directly to these ports using cat 5 cable. The computers will be
able to "talk to each other" but you'll need to decide what protocols you
want to use and set up the appropriate software. I suggest you don't worry
about this at the moment.

I hope the router comes with instructions! I've never configured a
router.


They can be tricky if you've never done it before but not impossible. Check
out your ISP to see what the ADSL settings should be, they may even have a
newsgroup that you could ask. Also, people here will help if they can, and
don't forget the manual if you get one (but these often use jargon that's
difficult to understand for someone not immersed in network knowledge).
Whatever you do, try to keep internet access available while you get things
sorted, as you've already got a working connection on a Windows machine this
shouldn't be a problem

If you want to read up on networking then The Linux Network Administrator's
Guide at http://tldp.org/guides.html will provide some bedtime reading.

--
Geoff


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