Re: Laptop processors - is this worth another £410?




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Philip Herlihy wrote:


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Philip Herlihy wrote:

Offered a choice of two processors when looking at a laptop from Dell.
To
me, the figures don't seem so different, but this isn't something I know
much about! Any opinions?

Intel® CoreT i7-720QM Mobile Processor (1.6GHz, turbo up to 2.8GHz, 6MB
L3
Cache) [Included in Price: £924]
Intel® CoreT i7-820QM Mobile Processor (1.73GHz, turbo up to 3.06GHz,
6MB L3 Cache) [£410 extra]

It'll be used for graphics (Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, all CS4) and
some software development.

Phil, London


Only silly people carry big laptops around these days.
I don't see many carrying them on trains for example.
Most things can run from a netbook and many
are now carrying them on trains and to meetings.

I run Linux with half dozen desktops on
a translucent 3D desktop. The 3D desktop greatly
expands the surface area you can work with
with such small screens. I leave most
applications running all of the time and still
get 8 hours as it don't cost energy when running
stuff in every efficient Linux OS.

Write up below:

3D TRANSLUCENT COMPIZ


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These monster laptops do have their uses - I have several customers (and
not
only silly ones) who have them. They rarely move them, but can move them
-
that's the attraction. I'll go for something a bit smaller - a 15.4" or
maybe 16" (and I'm wondering now whether to pay £160 extra for some fancy
LED screen...). And you can use 'em as snowboards when they croak...

Linux has never had much appeal for me (even though I was a competent Unix
sysadmin ten+ years ago). Almost all my customers run Windows of one sort
or another - a couple have Macs. You can't be master of everything,
that's for sure, so with a few exceptions (Adobe stuff mostly) I stick
with
Microsoft. It's not half as bad as people say (!) and some of it is
really great (I'm a big fan of Access for example, especially the latest
version).

Phil


May be I can change your mind.
I used to be a windummy through and through but I got fed up with its
limitations, so I urge trying out Linux because so much has changed in the
last 3 years.

I run windopws if needed in virtualbox reducing the issue
to running a simple application with one click when I want to use
application thats been written for windopws. Since virtualbox supports USB
as well, I don't need a real machine. And windopws eXpee runs at least twice
as fast with a dual core Linux CPU inside virtual box than on a real
machine!! Better still I can park virtualbox with applications open
and come back a few days later and start from where I left within about 3
seconds. It works well with netbooks too if you got RAM and disk space
and ideally the latest dual core netbooks and 7200 RPM drives.

Over the years I walked away from everything that is windopws
because I can get over windummy limitations like those above.
For data processing I use gambas and sqlite3 for example to process some
half billion data points in about 3 minutes.
I believe Open Office has something called Base that is similar to Access.
For data transfer, I use ext2 formatted flash drives which are 10x faster
than windummy methods. When you got thousands of files, its scary the
amount of time people waste.




You'll have an uphill struggle. Well over 90% of the desktops in the world run some sort of Windows, so until my customer base changes I need to be on top of that. And I don't really have time to master what are still fringe alternatives, good though they may be. I have the same problem with graphic design software: there's one big player (Adobe/macromedia) and many, many very good alternatives (particularly Serif and, yes, Microsoft, which are both much cheaper!) - I don't have time to learn them all. I have very few real irritations with Microsoft software which has come on in leaps and bounds in the last 10 years. No experienced user of Access 2007 would switch to Base (which I recently considered for a charity project), for example; it just doesn't scale. And I have to say that the language in your argument doesn't help: I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm open to new ideas (or I'd have stuck with FrontPage instead of moving to Dreamweaver). Talking in terms of "windummy" will only persuade the already persuaded. Otherwise I was nevertheless interested to read what you're doing with Linux.

Incidentally, I do find I'm resistant to migrating from a Windows Mobile Platform to an iPhone. I'll upgrade my phone soon, and I'll almost certainly pick an HTC HD2 running WM 6.5 over the spectacularly impressive iPhone. That's because I have some specific apps which I value which aren't (yet?) available on the iPhone, and because I value the integration with Windows and the ease with which I can develop my own software for it with Visual Studio. But if the apps, and more importantly my customers, move to the iPhone, then I'll have to have one. Unless Windows Mobile 7 (out September) is as good as the reviews on Winsupersite.com suggest.

Phil

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