Re: which ram?



Jas wrote:

Can someone help out a newbie.

My machine - a 530 P4 with 512Mb - has always performed a little slower than
I expected. Without any major surgery I thought I would buy and fit some
more ram but I want to ensure I get a) the right strip and b) it does really
make (worthy) an improvement. I do suspect I don't have the fastest HD on
the block.

If it is of any guide, taskmanager reports Commit charge 386M/1057M as I
type this (but nothing very special open/running).

What has confused me a little is the bios screen shows the FSB at 200Mhz,
now I *thought* I'd bought a 400M mobo so that would explain some speed
issues unless the bios and aida32 are being 'honest' and that is really how
it should be shown (is it 200+200?).

Anyway, if someone could say; yes and go buy xxx marked ram that would be
most helpful - I can see PC3200 mentioned in aida, is all pc3200 memory the
same (other than memory sizing), I assume I need another 512Mb stick. I'm
prepared to replace if required rather than add.

Much obliged, (part) report follows (hopefully shortened enough - please
delete on reply).

200MHz is indeed the frequency on your motherboard, that gives 400MHz fsb by
'double data rate', that is transfer on both raising and falling pulse. Dual
channel boards takes that into 800Mhz (effectively) fsb.

However, your memory is only set to 167MHz, resulting in 333MHz memory speed.
If your memory is DDR400 = PC3200, then you might set the memory speed manually
in the BIOS by changing the setting to 200MHz. Deselect the auto memory
detection and choose 200MHz.




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Aida32 reports the following, the mobo is asrock xxx

Motherboard:
CPU Type Unknown, 3000 MHz
(3.75 x 800)
Motherboard Name Unknown
Motherboard Chipset VIA Apollo PT800
System Memory 448 MB (Registered
ECC DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (09/15/05)
Communication Port Communications Port
(COM1)
Communication Port Belkin F5U103 USB
Serial Port (COM3)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome
Pro IGP (64 MB)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter VIA AC'97 Enhanced
Audio Controller

Storage:
Disk Drive HDS728080PLAT20
Optical Drive AOPEN DUW1608/ARR

--------[
DMI ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ BIOS ]

BIOS Properties:
Vendor American Megatrends
Inc.
Version P1.20
Release Date 09/15/2005
Size 512 KB
Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk,
CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow
BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
Supported Standards DMI, ACPI
Expansion Capabilities PCI, AGP, USB

[ System ]

System Properties:
Product 775VM800
Version 1.00
Serial Number 00000000
Universal Unique ID
00020003-00040005-00060007-00080009
Wake-Up Type Power Switch

[ Motherboard ]

Motherboard Properties:
Product 775VM800
Version 1.00
Serial Number 00000000

[ Memory Controller ]

Memory Controller Properties:
Error Detection Method None
Error Correction None
Supported Memory Interleave 4-Way
Current Memory Interleave 4-Way
Supported Memory Speeds 70ns, 60ns
Supported Memory Types SIMM, DIMM, SDRAM
Supported Memory Voltages 3.3V
Maximum Memory Module Size 1024 MB
Memory Slots 2

[ Processors / Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (64bit supported) ]

Processor Properties:
Manufacturer Intel
Version Intel(R) Pentium(R)
4 CPU 3.00GHz (64bit supported)
Serial Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Asset Tag To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Part Number To Be Filled By O.E.M.
External Clock 200 MHz
Maximum Clock 3000 MHz
Current Clock 3000 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 3.3 V, 2.9 V
Status Enabled
Socket Designation CPUSocket

[ Caches / L1-Cache ]
Cache Properties:
Type Internal

[ Caches / L2-Cache ]
Cache Properties:
Type Internal

[ Caches / L3-Cache ]

Cache Properties:
Type Internal
Status Disabled
Maximum Size 0 KB
Installed Size 0 KB
Socket Designation L3-Cache

[ Memory Modules / DIMM0 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM0
Type ECC, DIMM
Installed Size 512 MB
Enabled Size 512 MB

[ Memory Modules / DIMM1 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Socket Designation DIMM1
Speed 255 ns
Installed Size Not Installed
Enabled Size Not Installed

--------[
CPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Properties:
CPU Type Unknown, 3000 MHz
(3.75 x 800)
Original Clock 3000 MHz
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 2 MB (On-Die, ATC,
Full-Speed)

Multi CPU:
Motherboard ID TEMPLATE ETEMPLATE
CPU #0 Intel(R) Pentium(R)
4 CPU 3.00GHz, 2999 MHz
CPU #1 Intel(R) Pentium(R)
4 CPU 3.00GHz, 2999 MHz

CPU Utilization:
CPU #1 3 %

Enhanced Power Management:
Frequency ID Control Not Supported
Software Thermal Control Not Supported
Temperature Sensing Diode Not Supported
Thermal Monitoring Not Supported
Thermal Trip Not Supported
Voltage ID Control Not Supported

--------[
Motherboard ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID
63-120-0000010-00101111-091505-VIA$75V80000
Motherboard Name Unknown

Front Side Bus Properties:
Bus Type Intel NetBurst
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 200 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 800 MHz
Bandwidth 6400 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type Dual SDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 167 MHz
Effective Clock 167 MHz
Bandwidth 2667 MB/s

--------[
Memory ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Physical Memory:
Total 447 MB
Used 338 MB
Free 108 MB
Utilization 76 %

Swap Space:
Total 1057 MB
Used 259 MB
Free 798 MB
Utilization 24 %

Virtual Memory:
Total 1505 MB
Used 597 MB
Free 907 MB
Utilization 40 %

Problems & Suggestions:
Suggestion Install more system
memory to improve applications performance.

--------[
SPD ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ Nanya M2U51264DS8HC3G-5T ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name Nanya
M2U51264DS8HC3G-5T
Serial Number 93B03011h
Module Size 512 MB (2 rows, 4
banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC3200 (200 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us),
Self-Refresh
Highest CAS Latency 3.0 (5.0 ns @ 200
MHz)
2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (6.0 ns @ 166
MHz)

Memory Module Features:
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name Nanya Technology
Corp.
Product Information
http://www.nanya.com/e-htm/abc/abc-03.htm

--------[
Chipset ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset VIA Apollo PT800
CAS Latency 1.5T
RAS To CAS Delay 3T
RAS Precharge 2T

Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 3152 MB (Registered
ECC DDR SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 -1504 MB (Registered
ECC DDR SDRAM)

Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name VIA Technologies,
Inc.
Product Information
http://www.via.com.tw/en/apollo/chipsetindex.jsp
Driver Download
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2

--------[
BIOS ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BIOS Properties:
BIOS Type AMI
System BIOS Date 09/15/05
Video BIOS Date 04/22/05

BIOS Manufacturer:
Company Name American Megatrends
Inc.
Product Information
http://www.ami.com/amibios

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ATA ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ HDS728080PLAT20 (PFD8V3SESZEJNH) ]

ATA Device Properties:
Model ID HDS728080PLAT20
Serial Number PFD8V3SESZEJNH
Revision PF2OA21B
Parameters 159560 cylinders, 16
heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector
LBA Sectors 160836480
Buffer 1719 KB (Dual
Ported, Read Ahead)
Multiple Sectors 16
ECC Bytes 51
Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133)
Unformatted Capacity 78533 MB

ATA Device Features:
SMART Supported
Security Mode Supported
Power Management Supported
Advanced Power Management Supported
Write Cache Supported
Host Protected Area Supported
Power-Up In Standby Supported
Automatic Acoustic Management Supported
48-bit LBA Supported
Device Configuration Overlay Supported

--------[
SMART ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ HDS728080PLAT20 (PFD8V3SESZEJNH) ]

01 Raw Read Error Rate 16 100 100 0 OK:
Value is normal
02 Throughput Performance 50 100 100 0 OK:
Value is normal
03 Spin Up Time 24 140 140 8192160 OK:
Value is normal
04 Start/Stop Count 0 100 100 383 OK:
Always passing
05 Reallocated Sector Count 5 100 100 0 OK:
Value is normal
07 Seek Error Rate 67 100 100 0 OK:
Value is normal
08 Seek Time Performance 20 100 100 0 OK:
Value is normal
09 Power-On Time Count 0 100 100 1025 OK:
Always passing
0A Spin Retry Count 60 100 100 0 OK:
Value is normal
0C Power Cycle Count 0 100 100 312 OK:
Always passing
C0 Power-Off Retract Count 50 100 100 388 OK:
Value is normal
C1 Load/Unload Cycle Count 50 100 100 388 OK:
Value is normal
C2 Temperature 0 166 166 14, 33 OK:
Always passing
C4 Reallocation Event Count 0 100 100 0 OK:
Always passing
C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 100 100 0 OK:
Always passing
C6 Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 100 100 0 OK:
Always passing
C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 200 200 45 OK:
Always passing
.

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