Re: Lost XP product key - before install.

On 2005-08-13, Conor <conor.turton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In article <343e.42fdc6a9.3da50@stigmata>, Justin C says...
>> On 2005-08-12, Conor <conor.turton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > In article <2b00.42fcfbcd.54b4c@stigmata>, Justin C says...
>> >> On 2005-08-12, Conor <conor.turton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh and you'll need at LEAST 128MB for a half decent GUI whereas Windows
>> >> > could manage it on 4MB..
>> >>
>> >> The only way Windows can display a half decent UI is by giving us a
>> >> command line.
>> >
>> > Eh?
>>
>> I SAID: THE ONLY WAY WINDOWS CAN DISPLAY A HALF DECENT UI IS BY GIVING
>> US A COMMAND LINE.
>>
> Explain.

For the love of God. It's late Saturday night (for me), I'm tired and
half-cut. Explanation (brief - and in short words): The Windows
is so bad... I can't do this briefly.

Windows UI short-comings:
* No virtual desktops.
* It's *really* logical to click Start to stop
* The fact the background apps can steal focus
* Zip folder are displayed like real folders but you can't do "real
folder" stull, like send to.
* Clicking an icon twice to launch is an inate sense
* The screen gets eaten vertically cutting down the space for
documents leaving space at the sides of the screen when most
documents are long and therefore the sides of the screen are wasted.
* I can't rename the recycle bin
* I can't find anywhere, other that the command line, to instruct it
to permanently set up a network printer (must be an symlink for
LPT1)
* Want to allow all staff access to the files, some get write access,
some get read-only - it's still harder than "chmod 754 *"
* Icons/links to same programs in four places (four! I ask you) -
Desktop, quick launch, "recently used" (or whatever it's called) and
Start/Programs. How much clutter do you want? Don't worry, Windows
can give you all you need.
* "Your time-zone has changed from BST to GMT do you want to change
the clock?" of course I don't, I really want to have no idea what
the time is.

.... sure I'd think of some more if I had an XP machine to hand.




>>
>> >> The current GUI is abominable.
>> >>
>> > Really? How come your beloved Linux desktops are all apeing it then?
>>
>> My beloved Linux desktop looks nothing like windows. It's WindowMaker[1],
>> with icons and dock/wharf turned off, I love it. There are some flavours
>> of Linux that are trying to look like windows and the reason for this is
>> to aid the transition for those migrating.
>>
> Bollocks. Its because your freeloading hippie tosspots couldn't design
> a decent GUI if they tried. Just look at The GIMP. Any OSS app with a
> decent GUI apes a commercial app such as the Winamp clone.

I grant you the Gimp leaves a bit to be desired in the UI stakes. You
think XMMS is a good UI? It's usable but too small for my tastes.

The learning curve of the command line may be steep but once it is
conquered it is much, much faster than any GUI. We communicate with
the written word, a mouse is superfluos and, in many instances gets
in the way. For PhotoShop it's indespensable, for text editing it's
a waste of time. Consequently, the command line is my choice of UI (I
only have a windowing UI so I can have several text consoles open at the
same time.

As for "freeloading hippie tosspots" that's sweeping. Who is
freeloading? Who is a hippie (OK, Alan Cox does a good impression)? If
people want to write software and give it away why should you care,
you're happy throwing your money at Billy G. Many OS programmers work
for large companies, maybe writing software, maybe not. What they do for
OSS is in their spare time the fact that they can come up with something
that businesses and governments the world over are looking at seriously
(and in some cases have already migrated) as a replacement for MS,
with almost *no funding* says more for Linux than you can ever say
against it.

The bottom line is: you really, really don't like it, that's fine, no
one is asking you to use it - yet.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.
.

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