Re: Quakes

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:05:21 -0000, "Pat Gardiner"
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:18:55 +0000, Oz <Oz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Been a lot of earthquakes on the asian-australian plate boundary
of
late. The more recent being:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/

I'm just waiting for someone to claim that this is a result of
Global Warming.

It is the result of global warming. The plates expand as they get
hotter.
What you need to do is pump water into central California to cool
things
down.

It so happens that we do a very nice line in mega pumps. Prices on
application. Buy now, pay 2050. Strict no returns policy.

Merchandising Vice President.
Acme Water Pump Company Inc.

If we can dig miles underground for oil, why cant we do it for heat!
Imagine if we could pipe that energy. That would reduce global
warming
somewhat.


Actually, seriously, I hve always wondered about that. If we do
beleive
we
have to tackle global warming, we have a very funny way of going about
it.

We always use supermrket plastic bags as bin liners. We need pedal bin
liners. Today, we got the news that we would get no black bin
collection
from 14 Dec until 25 Jan, and believe me you need plastic bin liners
to
cope
with that, even in winter. Somebody must have second thoughts, on the
back
of the same document it has been changed to the usual two week gap -
and
you
must get the bin out by 0700!

We have found that the Co-op use biodegradable plastic bags. Now that
seems
sensible. Saves us buying disposable bin liners.

Even bio bags are not very eco friendly in reality. The best way is to
bring your own bags, and for the shops to offer refillable stations.

Then we have no bags to use for pedal bin liners. If we had a dustbin
outside the kitchen door emptied once a week, we could manage without a
pedal bin.

That's how people managed in the old days.

I'm not suggesting we go back to old systems,

Why not it worked.

See below

but when you see elderly
people dragging wheely bins long distnces over shingle,

You cant odds that. The bins or bags need to be left on the path.

It only worked because the bin men went through the gate and, almost always
as far as the back (kitchen) door.

True, and I don't see why that should not be restarted.

Most country houses around here have
shingle between the kitchen and the road. We use the degradable bin liner in
the kitchen and carry this to the wheely bin stationed on the lane.

Makes sense.

at the same time at
the same government department is insisting that field stiles are removed
to
give the disabled acess to rural footpaths, one begins to wonder.

I'm all for disabled access on walks. They need some consistent policy
for the gates and stiles, all sorts of shapes and sizes at the moment,
some you cannot even get through with a rucksack on your back! Not
rocket science when you consider all they need to exclude are animals,
bikes and cars.

So am I, but there is little point in replacing or duplicating a serviceable
style to give access to an area which is not really passable to someone
disabled.

Who are we to decide that in a general sense? If I was disabled I
would certainly use a wheelchair/trolley suitable for off road access.

The money is better spent on improving access to areas which can
be crossed in comfort by disabled people.
This is a very different point to the question of keeping Rights of Way
open.

I think
most disabled people would forgo access to countryside they can't walk on,
for a more appropriate refuse service.

Mind you I can see keeping
the bins clean is going to be a real chore for many folks.

With a weekly service and intelligent use of a compost heap, there was no
need for cleaning

Then again
one should be composting most of the rubbish at home, which helps an
awful lot. Same problem really, that requires thought and effort, and
in this throwaway world that is beyond most folks imaginations.

Exactly. The people promoting these schemes are simply not good enough.

Sadly these idiots are being paid millions for running these things
such as rubbish collection, public access, pensions, child benefits
etc and they clearly don't live in the real world! Even after the HMRC
fiasco with the 25 million database going astray. Pensions in Wales
are still putting complete confidential records in wheely bins for
anyone to access (Watchdog) the incompetence is stunning.

I completely agree. It is often the result of out-of- control political
correctness. They are so busy employing their quota of black, Asian,
disabled etc etc, they forget that the individual has to have the brains,
aptitude and above all command of spoken and written English (dodgy one that
last for me) to actually do the job.

I cant believe society has allowed them to give us the Black pigs
association, or the gay pigs association. It seems these days if
you're a black poof you got it made. Mind you that PC gone crazy
again. Most blacks or gays I know have nothing to do with any of it,
just living their lives as we do, best we can.

And before anyone accuses me of racism, I have employed both West Indians
and Asians. They could both speak acceptable English and understood the
culture they were working in

Then there is the tin can nonsense. In an area with a water shortage,
we
have to rinse them under a tap.

Have you noticed how much is wasted brushing teeth?

Yes. One of the reasons why I object to rinsing tin cans.

I presume they must also wash them thoroughly before recycling at
destination. I guess water butts should also be made compulsory and
systems built into houses so that we can reuse our grey water for just
such things, and toilets etc.

They are attempting to do this by the use of meters. Meters hit the very
people who are in the most need of water and are unuable to economise.

Like who, who cant afford to economise?

Without being too indelicate, most disabled people need to wash both
themselves, their clothes and bedclothes much more often. Many conditions
need frequent access to the lavatory too. Many people are disabled on a
temporary basis. This can be a time of great financial stress too.

Then those needs should be met of course.

A couple of years ago, I had six months when I did not sleep for more than
an hour at a time without , waking in a cold sweat with a bed soaked with
perspiration. My wife had to get up up to every hour, change the bed etc,
put everything into a washing machine, then (in winter) out to the garage to
use a dryer. It was a nightmare. The electricity bills were massive, but
partly off-set by a totally woodburning central heating system. The record
was seven bed chnges in one night!

Fortunately, although I still sometimes get this problem, it is now less
severe. Personal experience makes for more compassion and understanding than
any textbook or lecture.

One size does not fit all. I genuinely believe that most consumers will,
if
given intellegent encouragement, co-operate with sensible schemes.

If by gentle, you mean a good kick up the arse. I'll agree.

The "people" are usually OK, but give them a uniform, a clipboard or an
expense account and they go nuts. The remedy is to remind them often, and
forcefully, that we are paying them.

They're not listening. Look at the recent DEFRA free for all at the
tax payers expense.

Weh you go off half *** with nonsense, the need for conservation gets
lost
in irritation and evasion.

The Irish some years ago, I'm not sure of the situation now, charged for
every bin/bag of rubbish. The result was a disaster with fly-tipping
everywhere. We should learn from other peoples disasters.

The councils did years ago, started charging to remove large items
from households, like beds, fridges etc. So people dumped them.
Obvious really.

I think rubbish collection is one of the council duties you cant
short-change.

With all these cuts in services one wonders what our taxes are going
on!

The wrong things.

Regards Pat


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