Re: The green house effect - one of Thatcher's lies?


"Malcolm" <Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:utSNpcai7A9FFwhk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

In article <6u1OBxP0198FFw60@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Oh No
<NotI@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
Thus spake Malcolm <Malcolm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

There was an editorial in the New Scientist a couple of weeks ago which
reviewed the International Panel on Climate Change's summary report.
Among other comments, it said:

"The IPCC's efforts are creating a bedrock of scientific certainty, but
don't expect this to silence the sceptics. With one or two exceptions,
they are masters of spin rather than science. They have no alternative
narrative for the state of the climate and merely hop from one
uncertainty to the next: cosmic rays or little ice ages, urban heat
islands or the social pathology of climate scientists."

"Whatever the future direction of the IPCC, we now know enough to make
climate change the challenge of the 21st century. One of the most
corrosive contributions of the climate sceptics has been to promote any
uncertainty as an excuse for inaction. In truth, the remaining
uncertainties should be making us redouble our efforts to mitigate
climate change. It is a fair bet that much of what we do not yet know
for sure will turn out to be scarier than most of us like to imagine."


OTOH, it is well worth reading this article, by the ex-editor of NS,
which puts a different perspective on what the IPCC have actually said

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1363818.ece


It's also worth reading this, regarding the C4 programme:

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2347526.e
ce

As someone has said in another ng, is this The Great Global Warming
Swindle Swindle?

And note the reference to problems with an earlier programme by the same
film-maker.


when considering vested interests it has to be noted that a programme maker
is far more likely to sell the programme if it is controversial than if it
merely agrees with what everyone says is right anyway

Jim Webster


.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: An Inconvenient Truth DVD
    ... budget to the international network of professional climate change ... There was only one scientific advisor on the programme, ... agenda on climate change. ... For this programme Durkin drew up a dream team of scientists who have ...
    (rec.arts.movies.current-films)
  • Watch the Monkey!
    ... Gambling with the Climate of Our Planet ... to deal realistically with scientific uncertainty and a failure to address ... uncertainty is the fuel that powers disputes over global warming. ... do not realize is that when scientists talk about "uncertainty", ...
    (sci.physics)
  • U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 200
    ... Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently ... criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice ... from around the world have dubbed 2007 as the year man-made global warming ...
    (uk.politics.misc)
  • Re: Doom is at the Door
    ... The world's top scientists warned last week that ... > climate change is taking place today, ... > global warming, comes into force after a seven-year delay. ... as the seas rise dramatically. ...
    (sci.energy)
  • O.T. Many Scientists Debunk Gore!
    ... You know the movie that most of the scientists that the AP quoted have NOT ... what do world climate experts actually think about the ... ice is grounded, it has to break off in beautiful ice cascades. ... whether global warming is really happening? ...
    (alt.guitar.amps)