Re: Culling by suffocation


"Derek Moody" <derek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <1147196313.587326.319360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Oh No
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Thus spake Jill <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

As one of the criteria was welfare - if anyone found out that the birds
were
coming round
:~(((

If you think of their usual end than almost anything is going to be more
humane/less stressful. The kindest thing would be to be as quick as
possible. No point in being squeamish if it's a bit messy.

Oh - I know what happens usually
In an epidemic scenario we are talking about hundreds of thousands of birds
being dealt with in the glare of publicity on top of all the requirements
for biosecurity and health and safety of the people involved
As Jane picked up on from the original post - there are sensitivities that
will be aired.
Remember many more people have their own chickens in the garden than have
lambs or cows
There will be even more public "interest" than FMD


The quick way to suffocate most of a house full of broilers is to let a
fox in at one end :-(

Not really - only the bottom ones


So:

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Lift the drinkers, remove the augers open the big doors and then bulldoze
the whole lot, litter and all, into a heap. Cover with a silage *** and
a
whole 30k house could be killed inside half an hour. Most will have died
in
the first few minutes.
</div>

While I understand your thinking - I doubt the mortality would be as good as
you think
It also involves potential damage to birds which is an advantage with gas -
less contaminated bodily fluids on the loose


If you can arrange a lethal dose of something then modern fittings may let
you drop the bottom of a whle row of cages at a time then you run the
scrapers.

Ummm, and don't forget that most big houses are equipped for fumigation
between batches - it used to be with formalin, I don't know if that's
current but the kit will already be in place and should dispense other
agents OK.

Yes - which is probably why gas of some kind seems to be most common

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regards
Jill Bowis

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