Re: Dutch birds going out?


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"Pat Gardiner" <patgardiner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The recent incidents are different. Weybridge reported to
Seerad, but
everyone else knew before it was officially reported. The
financial implications are horrendous.

Either Weybridge leaked or Seerad did. Whoever leaked is dead.

Or it was an agreed strategy to get the required resources
rolling as
quickly and efficiently as possible

If it was, it is even worse. They could and should have rushed
the official announcement out. Why not?

Why?
All the important people got to know
The general public need to know but not first

if 10% of the general public had reached pats level of bigotry,
then that
would be a good reason for not telling them at all

If it is avian flu, I think you are about to find that most of the
population will abandon poultry. They don't trust the government on
farming
or food health issues. You have, of course, contributed to this
distrust - as has your organisation.

"An ITN news poll of 2000 viewers last Friday found that 49 per
cent may consider cutting poultry from their diets as the situation
goes forward, with 23 per cent saying they will stop eating eggs
and chicken. Retailers, suppliers and government officials are
starting to feel edgy. They expect the true impact of avian flu to
hit the UK poultry industry over
the coming days and weeks. "

The impact in Britain will obviously be much worse than on the
Continent. The Continentals have a better record on such matters.
Their State Veterinarians do not have such a deplorable record and
there have been fewer
animal health epidemics.

Which silly remark, based on your obsession and not on facts, ignores
reports that chicken sales have apparently fallen by 70-80% in Italy
and up to 40% in France.

Exactly, the ITN poll is merely a poll. It is a snapshot of a few
people asked a specific (unknown) question at a particular time.

I'm suggesting that it may be worse because of the poor UK record.

So it was not a silly remark. You can apologise at your leisure, just
so long as you get the point.

This lot does not make sense. You quote an ITN poll and suggest the
continental sales will hold up better than in the UK. When continental
figures are posted, showing your ignorance, you suggest the UK will be
worse than the ITN poll suggests because "the ITN poll is merely a poll".

I will take this very slowly. I quoted a poll, but not with approval as to
their estimate. There was other information there. We all agree there will
be a drop in sales obviously. The poll, you me, Uncle Tom Cobley.

I then say it will be worse in Britain than on The Continent and give my
reasons.

The Telegraph reported today that poultry sales over the weekend held up,
i.e. folk continued to buy poultry. As I recall sales on the continent
plummeted as soon as the first indication of bird flue appeared in, or
adjacent, to the country.

Ignoring inconvenient facts yet again Pat?

Not at all. I think I should give the whole of the Telegraph report -

Quote
Bird flu scare fails to hit poultry sales
By David Derbyshire, Consumer Affairs Editor
(Filed: 11/04/2006)

The bird flu scare failed to dent shoppers' enthusiasm for chicken and eggs
over the weekend, supermarkets said yesterday.



The "big four" chains reported normal sales, although Sainsbury's admitted
that sales of chicken had dropped "marginally".

Poultry farmers are concerned that the discovery of the virulent H5N1 strain
in a swan in Scotland last week will knock consumer confidence. There is
still no evidence that the disease has spread to poultry in Britain.

Even if it did, cooking would destroy the virus, according to the Food
Standards Agency.

Unquote

There has hardly been time to see what will happen in the longer term.
Poultry farmers are concerned - and I think they are right.

You will notice that I used the future tense in my comments, not past tense.
That was not a mistake. Italy is not representative of the Continent as a
whole.


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Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com



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