Re: Bird Flu Controls




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"Pat Gardiner" <patgardiner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Europe agreed that ready-to-lay pullets, turkeys for fattening and
other poultry or farmed feathered game could be moved out of
surveillance zones 15 days after an outbreak. A vet would have to give
approval and the birds would need to be kept under surveillance, away
from other poultry.

While on the face of it this sounds daft, in practical terms it may not
be so bad as long as it means 15 days after the last signs of any virus
activity. This does not hide so easily in these species.

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Don't snip so agreessively as to deliberately obsure an important issue.

I was not
I snipped to the part I had time to answer


I have absolutely no problem with somebody, neutral, half sensible and
appropriately qualified and appointed, making difficult decisions during
an epidemic. The British system was never to rely on a rule book in an
emergency - and it works.

But I do not and will not accept that the SVS can licence vets to make
decisions like this on their behalf.

That is only your opinion.

Of course, it is my opinion - and a sensible one. I have no record of
presiding over repeated human health disasters and being repeatedly
criticised by public enquiries. The State Veterinary Service need watching
very closely. The more people, without a financial interest, keeping an eye
on them the better.

Next they will be appointing you to decide what controls are necessary on
your own birds! (that ought to be bad joke.)

We have a potential human health disaster on our doorsteps and the State
Veterinary Service abdicates responsibility to commercial interests. It is
yet another national disgrace and could lead to yet another disaster.

You keep telling us everyone else knows better but yet that is not in
evidence anywhere.

I can't follow that.


Can you imagine Bernard Matthews' (merely as an example) regular vet
daring to refuse permission for them to move birds if they want to?

Yes as moving infected birds will create an much more serious economic
problem than they already had
This is not a disease transmitted in the air like FMD
It will be in the industries best interests to contain any infection they
get to as few sites as possible
They will not want to move one batch of infected growers onto a site where
other batches of growers are already out of the danger zone and nearly
ready to go. These sites have lots of units at different stages of
growing.

It is nobodies interests to allow any epidemic to spread, although, in
theory, it could be in the case of an over compensated cull. That is not the
point.

We pay these civil servants to do an important job without fear of favour.
They should not be allowed to subcontract it to commercial interests.

The subcontractor, by the very nature of their commercial interests, have an
obvious and blatant Conflict of Interest.

You are dealing with potential human health issues. Any private veterinarian
taking such a decision and making a blunder would get his pants sued off in
the event of human cases arising, so might his client - you.

And he or she would deserve it. The insurers would take to their heels

If they can't understand Conflicts of Interest, they should not be in any
profession, let alone one with a bad record, dealing with an epidemic.

Indeed, frankly, nobody should be running any kind of business without such
basic knowledge.

If this is how the State Veterinary Service are preparing for bird flu, we
face yet anothert disaster. Good job the newspapers picked it up!


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Regards
Pat Gardiner
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regards
Jill Bowis

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