Re: Missing Matter

Charles Francis <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
>In message <HzX+UuAGOAkDFwVd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Oz
><Oz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
>>Charles Francis <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
>>>
>>>Yes, but we have to guess at neutrino mass. While it could account for
>>>some missing matter, there is no proof of neutrino mass
>>
>>The oscillation is proof.
>
>It is no more proof than the W-S theory is proof of the existence of the
>Higgs. It is based on an entirely suspect approach to qft. Unfortunately
>this whole area is so difficult that anyone grasping it immediately
>thinks it is all proven. Actually, mathematically most of it doesn't
>even exist, and physically none of it has any empirical evidence
>whatsoever. A (very) few results, like neutrino oscillations are
>entirely likely to be explained by other theories. If only there were
>one which made sense. My own "naive" approach to qft is based on Fock
>space and is normally thought to fail. I got to all this stuff about
>gravity by seeking to show that it does not fail, but you have to
>redefine covariance if you remember. In this approach you can only have
>neutrino oscillations if neutrinos all have the same mass, which may be
>zero. Exactly the opposite of standard thinking.

For the moment you are (well) outnumbered and thus definitely a crank.

>>Unfortunately current theory cannot allocate a figure for mass.
>>It will be small, however, but there are eversomany primordial
>>neutrinos.
>>
>>>and the
>>>equations don't work too well if one assumes sufficient mass. I
>>
>>I think sort of 10% (of something) is a plausible amount.
>>
>>>>>That brings me down to 2%
>>>>>critical density, or rather 8% with the teleconnection.
>
>Sorry, I was lying again, due to failure to read an equation properly
>(shame).

Bloody pathetic I call it.
No wonder baez et al tore shreds off you and now won;t look at your
stuff.

>Baryonic matter is about 4%, or 15% with the teleconnection.
>This means we are only looking for a factor of 6 for missing mass
>compared to observed mass, not a factor of 25, so neutrinoes are
>actually a reasonable contender.

Pah! Very good when its convenient I see.

>As are primordial black holes, and
>other more conventional explanations.

Less conventional, I thin you mean.

>>Good job you keep an open mind on unproven things at all times like a
>>good scientist.....
>
>Yes. But bear in mind that infinity is an unprovable thing. Really it
>has no place in empirical science.

Maybe. Does a path round circle have infinite length?

>>>Now we have to substitute in f->f (a(t)/a0)^2 and T -> 1000 T
>>>(temperature has dropped by a factor near 1000. Which means the universe
>>>was at about 1/30 current size, as said before.
>>
>>Er, hang on a tick.
>>Energy isn't conserved in expansion so wtf are you doing?
>
>If you redshift a black body spectrum you get a black body spectrum at
>lower temperature.

You most certainly do.

>But I am now certain I have used the wrong red shift
>factor for the expansion. I should use the standard one. Explanation in
>another post.

OK.

>>Take the peak spectral line at any given temp.
>>Wein's displacement law says the max brightness is proportional to
>>temperature eg
>>http://webphysics.davidson.edu/faculty/dmb/blackbody/Wiendemo.html
>
>Surely Weinberg doesn't claim credit for that? It is something which any
>half competent mathematician can read directly from Stefan's law.

I suspect wienberg came first.

>>CMR temp = 4000K (IIRC) we are currently 3K so its about 1/1000th of the
>>linear size or ... OK factor of 1000.
>>
>>Naively that should give us a factor of 1000 in universe size or 10^9 in
>>density which is rather a lot.
>
>That is the correct factor. I was taking the square root, but now think
>this is wrong.

Make your mind up Dr Francis.
I'm the thicko farmer, remember?

>>No yoo ole fule its because its putting in your take on it.
>>I want the first letter to have a simple set of heuristic statements
>>that are stated to result in a set of results. No maths, no explanations
>>of the detailed whys and wherefores. Simply change the doppler law to
>>include expansion and the following really nice things happen.
>>
>I'll just get stuff like the second refs report. "The standard analysis
>works and he's misinterpreted it"

I doubt it.

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