Re: New Orleans
- From: "Jim Webster" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 15:39:56 +0100
"Charles Francis" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> In message <Ff0+v6ECJtGDFw21@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Oz
> <Oz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
> >Jill. <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
> >>"Oz" <Oz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> How long does it take to:
> >>> 1) Source 100 truckloads of bottled water.
> >>> Note that you aren't going to get much joy from areas south of mid USA
> >>> because they are affected by the hurricane.
> >>Emergency planning means you already have them sourced -- from lots of
> >>different places depending on possible damage courses.
> >I'm glad I don;t pay for your level of taxes.
> I wish I wasn't going to have to. Council tax more than 50% more than
> >>> 2) Source 100 trucks. Note that these are not sitting about doing
> >>> nothing awaiting an emergency.
> >>Emergency planning means these are already on standy by --
> >Oh, pleeuze.
> >Don't be a prat.
> Don't you be a prat. And don't speak like that to a lady. As I said in
> the other post, this is precisely what armies have, precisely so they
> can respond to an emergency. Yes it is expensive, war, and preparation
> for war is expensive. But there is no reason it should not be ready for
> use in other emergencies too.
> >OK, so divide your management resources up so nothing is done
> Armies don't do things efficiently. They do things fast.
but they are still on a budget and still under political control. Talking to
a couple of people, I know UK artillery regiments who haven't enough men to
man the guns and still have to lose more. US army will have similar
restraints on speed of deployment
> >>All we are talking about in the first 48 hours is WATER and food and
> >First 48 hrs....
> That was 48 hours for preparation, when nothing much else could have
> happened anyway. And they still weren't ready after that.
> >>While it will take months to sort out the engineering basic humanitarian
> >>in a country like that should have been available within 24 hours - no
> >>no buts. There should have been so much food and bottled water and
> >>in the urban centres that everyone there felt they were being cared for.
> >>They would have then been patient.
> >Hmm, another 'wise after the event person'.
> Actually no. We have had emergencies here requiring the army, and again
> the order to mobilise them was really slow. It should be standard
> practice to call in the army instantly when there is a civil emergency,
> and it isn't. It would be good exercise for the army reducing response
> times anyway. All they are they have to do is wait around till they are
> needed and do exercises.
Not enough army.
Currently men haven't enough time between tours to have family life
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