Re: New CIS scheme
- From: "Troy Steadman" <troysteadman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 22 Oct 2005 04:34:28 -0700
Simon wrote:
> "Peter Saxton" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:v2til1teeb1a6o1qhntnbbldnnbkui591h@xxxxxxxxxx
> > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:54:44 +0100, "Simon"
> > <simon.steer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Peter Saxton" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>news:2p7il1t997ak21ajfm2tpoj2iqa1n1jmth@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:50:54 +0100, Jon Griffey
> >>> <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I see that the new CIS scheme has now been deferred until Apr 07.
> >>>>
> >>>>Why is everything a shambles these days?
> >>>
> >>> I'd guess that the reason why the CIS scheme has been delayed is
> >>> because whoever was in charge of it didn't have much idea about the
> >>> subject. There seems to be a breed of "managers" who only get anywhere
> >>> by self-promotion and are sustained by others with similar
> >>> incompetence.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Peter Saxton from London
> >>> peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>Its a terrible think but I think I am getting as bitter and twisted as
> >>Peter, but working for the Department I have to agree. The trouble is, we
> >>had only just started to settle down after the merger with the
> >>Contributions
> >>Agency when along comes the next merger. It seems that all the head office
> >>departments are being staffed by senior people from the opposite agency to
> >>the one they used to work for.
> >>
> >>Oh well, at least its the weekend.
> >>
> > Simon
> >
> > Thanks for confirming my thoughts.
> >
> > You're wrong about me being twisted though. I'm one of those self
> > employed who can stand upright and say and do what I want. I don't
> > have to kow tow to clients - if one left it would affect my income
> > very minimally (much less than the extra clients I am getting all the
> > time) and at least it would reduce my To Do list!
> >
> > I'm not bitter at all when I look at the people in these big
> > organisations grovelling because they don't have the ability to be
> > confident other than in the chance to fool similar incompetents. I
> > prefer to be in a position to decide my own income - I do have to work
> > harder if I want a few extra pounds (or put my prices up!) but I'm not
> > stuck on some joke salary for the rest of my life.
> >
> > The weekend? Maybe that's where you have an advantage - I'm having to
> > work this weekend because a lot of clients have accounts deadlines
> > (not to mention my VAT return!) at 31 October and they don't seem to
> > enjoy giving me the data early. Then again it's good to get out of bed
> > when it suits me and I can always take a day or two off at short
> > notice whenever I want.
> >
> > I could have always stagnated and been a Sage Forum signpost!
> >
> > --
> > Peter Saxton from London
> > peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Yes, Peter, there are definite advantages to being self employed and from
> your post, disadvantages as well. I was not intending to mean bitter and
> twisted in a bad way, and as a name for a beer, its not bad either.
Yes, "bitter and twisted" in its highly commendable sense.
> There are dozens of reasons why the level of service the public receives is
> not up to scratch and its always the workers in the front line that have to
> carry the can when things either go wrong or at least, not as well as they
> should or even could. As is the way with large bureaucratic organisations,
> decisions are made by people who are divorced from the actual front line and
> just don't understand the problems.
>
> For instance, under FBI when you send in the P35 and P14s, the new P35 does
> not list the P14s included with the return. You would think that the
> software we use to interrogate the database would be able to report the
> details of all P14s associated with the return. So how can I find out if the
> return is complete without going out to the employer to view the records.
>
> The Joke salary is a sore point at present as we were supposed to get our
> pay rise from 1 Aug 2005 but the Union, bloody useless gits, are still
> negotiating. Still, if they accept the offer on the table, not that they
> will tell us the details, then we might get it for Christmas, my son might
> get a few extra black jacks in his stocking because that's all it will pay
> for.
>
> If I want the earn more, there's no overtime so I will have to cross the
> table and work for one of the big firms, I know I could get a job as they
> have offered in the past. The pays better but the hours are much worse,
> having to work till the job is done irrespective of the time taken. That
> extra £10k is good but the cost in time is high.
>
> And by the way, we all have clients that leave it till the last minute to
> provide the data and when they do supply it, they expect you to be able to
> do a months work in 20 minutes. Its just one of our many skills.
>
> Hope you do get a chance to relax.
I feel sorry for the cat.
.
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