Re: New CIS scheme


"Peter Saxton" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:54:44 +0100, "Simon"
> <simon.steer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Peter Saxton" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:2p7il1t997ak21ajfm2tpoj2iqa1n1jmth@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:50:54 +0100, Jon Griffey
>>> <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I see that the new CIS scheme has now been deferred until Apr 07.
>>>>
>>>>Why is everything a shambles these days?
>>>
>>> I'd guess that the reason why the CIS scheme has been delayed is
>>> because whoever was in charge of it didn't have much idea about the
>>> subject. There seems to be a breed of "managers" who only get anywhere
>>> by self-promotion and are sustained by others with similar
>>> incompetence.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter Saxton from London
>>> peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>Its a terrible think but I think I am getting as bitter and twisted as
>>Peter, but working for the Department I have to agree. The trouble is, we
>>had only just started to settle down after the merger with the
>>Contributions
>>Agency when along comes the next merger. It seems that all the head office
>>departments are being staffed by senior people from the opposite agency to
>>the one they used to work for.
>>
>>Oh well, at least its the weekend.
>>
> Simon
>
> Thanks for confirming my thoughts.
>
> You're wrong about me being twisted though. I'm one of those self
> employed who can stand upright and say and do what I want. I don't
> have to kow tow to clients - if one left it would affect my income
> very minimally (much less than the extra clients I am getting all the
> time) and at least it would reduce my To Do list!
>
> I'm not bitter at all when I look at the people in these big
> organisations grovelling because they don't have the ability to be
> confident other than in the chance to fool similar incompetents. I
> prefer to be in a position to decide my own income - I do have to work
> harder if I want a few extra pounds (or put my prices up!) but I'm not
> stuck on some joke salary for the rest of my life.
>
> The weekend? Maybe that's where you have an advantage - I'm having to
> work this weekend because a lot of clients have accounts deadlines
> (not to mention my VAT return!) at 31 October and they don't seem to
> enjoy giving me the data early. Then again it's good to get out of bed
> when it suits me and I can always take a day or two off at short
> notice whenever I want.
>
> I could have always stagnated and been a Sage Forum signpost!
>
> --
> Peter Saxton from London
> peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Yes, Peter, there are definite advantages to being self employed and from
your post, disadvantages as well. I was not intending to mean bitter and
twisted in a bad way, and as a name for a beer, its not bad either.

There are dozens of reasons why the level of service the public receives is
not up to scratch and its always the workers in the front line that have to
carry the can when things either go wrong or at least, not as well as they
should or even could. As is the way with large bureaucratic organisations,
decisions are made by people who are divorced from the actual front line and
just don't understand the problems.

For instance, under FBI when you send in the P35 and P14s, the new P35 does
not list the P14s included with the return. You would think that the
software we use to interrogate the database would be able to report the
details of all P14s associated with the return. So how can I find out if the
return is complete without going out to the employer to view the records.

The Joke salary is a sore point at present as we were supposed to get our
pay rise from 1 Aug 2005 but the Union, bloody useless gits, are still
negotiating. Still, if they accept the offer on the table, not that they
will tell us the details, then we might get it for Christmas, my son might
get a few extra black jacks in his stocking because that's all it will pay
for.

If I want the earn more, there's no overtime so I will have to cross the
table and work for one of the big firms, I know I could get a job as they
have offered in the past. The pays better but the hours are much worse,
having to work till the job is done irrespective of the time taken. That
extra £10k is good but the cost in time is high.

And by the way, we all have clients that leave it till the last minute to
provide the data and when they do supply it, they expect you to be able to
do a months work in 20 minutes. Its just one of our many skills.

Hope you do get a chance to relax.

Simon



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