Re: Career advice for a young PC enthusiast.



zzzzz wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 14:13:17 +0100, "Gaz" <gazter@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Gordon Walker wrote:


Gaz

I do have to disagree on your last statement

"and isnt something that should be attempted without passing the
necessary microsoft certified exams"

this is not true, I know people who have sat the MCSE exam - by
reading books and then passing with a high percentage yet when they
actually sit at a server - they have no idea what they are doing.

Well, this is true of all things, theoretical study followed by practical
experieince. Someone can be good at one and useless at the other. Windows
Server series are complicated beasts, and while you can run wizards to
accomplish a lot of tasks, you need to have the factual knowledge to know
when it goes wrong.

Thse MCP and what ever you call them, are great, but at the end of the
day experience is what counts - you may have to read the odd book to
get a grasp of the functionality of a certain system, but these days
alot of systems are based on the fundamental industry standard (for
example LDAP, based on the X500 protocol, for authentication). As long
as you are knowledgeable in the fundamentals of a particular system,
then learning a new system should be straightforward as long as you
put in long hours and have the desire to learn.

Yes, very true. But if you where going to pick a path for someone to learn,
especially a youngster who doesnt have a lot of experience with older
systems, and it unlikely to have encountered anything before server2003,
learning about it first, and then doing the hands on is invaluable.

I manage a server infrastrcture based on Citrix, IBM ISeries
(Mainframe), Lotus Domino , Microsoft Active Directory and Novell OES
eDirectory - and I havent even sat one exam for the above yet I am
very good in managing these systems and can resolve all issues with a
given SLA we work on be it hardware failure to operating system
issues.

I have absolutely no doubt you are.

I am sure you will disagree with my point, and thats normal and others
may have different view to me.

As I said, there are mutliple ways to do things, the books give you a
structured way of finding out about how servers work. Servers are not easy,
understanding Active Directory is not easy, it is something you need to
learn. You can learn it by spending many many hundreds of hours in front of
a server in your home, trying it out, you can learn from watching a server
engineer do their stuff, and you can learn by following the learning
programmes published by Microsoft.

I would suggest the latter (which involves the first, in a structured way)
is the best way...

Gaz


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