Re: Science and The Revelation


"Bob" <RobertArvay@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You are not answering the question. You are merely selecting a group
of passages from the Bible, and imposing your own opinion on them.

The name Emmanuel means, "God with us." Jesus is God.

Many people claim that the prophesy regards only a "young woman," not
necessarily a virgin. Yet the passage you cite testifies otherwise,
for Joseph was not the physical father of Jesus.

I have read many interpretations of Bible passages by Baha'is. They
tend toward contradicting things that the Bible flatly states. For
example, Baha'is apparently do not believe in the virgin birth, nor

PK: So, you are done with saying that you were a Baha'i?

- All Bad

that Jesus physically died on the cross, nor that he was physically
resurrected from death. They cannot explain the atoning sacrifice in
any but the most vague and meaningless terms (because otherwise it
makes Jesus unique and supreme).

As to The Revelation, it is unfolding even today. Scientific
discoveries, political and economic events, even climate change, are
all coming together in fulfillment of the prophecies of The
Revelation. There is no need for delphic interpretations, unless one
is trying to obscure the truth to fit the Baha'i view.

Rev 8:8 tells us that something like a great mountain, burning with
fire, will be cast into the sea. A few decades ago, people might have
scratched their heads, and tried to apply all sorts of obscure
meanings to this passage.

Today, astronomers are anxiously searching the skies, hoping to
prevent exactly the kind of catastrophic meteor impact which The
Revelation describes.

These astronomers are not comforted by your nebulous interpretations.
Even though they may not believe the Bible, the prophecy therein is
plain and straightforward.



On Jan 27, 9:05 am, "All Bad" <AllBad_notrea...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
"Bob" <RobertAr...@xxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On what basis do you claim that this is an analogy?
What if it's not?

I'll read Is 7:14 to you and then Mt 1 so that you can see how scripture
interprets Is 7:14.

Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with
child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

Matthew 1:20-21 points out that this promise is fulfilled, when a physical
young woman gives birth to a physical Son, even though His apparent name
is
not Immanuel:

.. an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son
of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is
conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son,
and
you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from
their sins."

So, a prophesied woman has a prophesied son, in fulfillment becomes a
physical woman having a physical Son, allbeit with a different given name.
Now consider Revelation 12:2,5

She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
... She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations
with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his
throne.

How must this prophesy of Rev 12:2,5 be interpreted in the light of
scripture?

- All Bad

On Dec 31 2007, 3:10 pm, "All Bad" <AllBad_notrea...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



"Bob" <RobertAr...@xxxxxxx> wrote in message

Rev 8:8 ¶ And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great
mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part
of the sea became blood;

Rev 8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea,
and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

Can you figure out the analogy?

(Is 7:14) : (Mt 1 ) : : (Rev 12:1-6) : ??

If not, would you ask for help? If you would not ask for help, how can
you
receive the Grace of God?

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