Re: Dear Jeffrey



On Dec 13, 3:15 pm, alexa.zivov...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Dec 13, 5:03 pm, Jeffrey <Jeffrey...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Dec 13, 1:55 am, Viv <viv_jacob...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jeffery may find much of what Nima/Wahid/AHWA posts "contemptible" but
it doesn't stop him using the Bayani's tricks.

Thus the Baha'is who post to the group are "a small group of hacks"
while the Remeyites who post escape any such characterisation; he
bemoans the fact that more Baha'is don't take part - but if they did
they would, by definition be "hacks". He complains that Baha'is won't
engage with him though Susan does. And he flags up the "Internet
Committee" when he, not being stupid, knows perfectly well that it's
an invention of Nima's for which no evidence has ever been offered.
(Perhaps it's a sop to Nima, to make up for that "contemptible"
comment.)

Other Remeyites have in the past saught to defend Jeffrey saying he's
a really nice person, he just gets irate at the errors of the Baha'is.
I'm not so sure.

Viv.

I'm not so sure either. I never claimed to be a "really nice" person.

What I meant by the Internet committee, to borrow a phrase, is that it
seems like the small group of Bahais who post here are officially
authorized, and that no one else dares post here. I may be wrong. It
just appears that way.

You boast millions of Baha'is. Where are they? Why is it that much
smaller groups have a larger presence on the internet? Why is your
group so threatened that it has to sue the little ones? These are
fair questions.

Jeffrey

I'm not being facetious here, sweetie, I'm really not. But I saw,
after googling, a picture of you in which you're described as a hand
of the cause of god. Shouldn't being a nice person be the most basic
quality of someone who, perhaps, occupies such a rare position among
the 6billion of us currently here?

I had another think about why few people post here and then my husband
said "Why would any sane person want to go on what seems all too often
to be the internet version of the Jerry Springer Show?" So there you
have it - my hubby thinks I'm mad. :)

He has a point though about this place.

I couldn't care less about the Hand of the Cause title. I never asked
for it and I don't think I have any obligation to try to live up to
your standard of what it means. Considering the track record of the
faithless Hands, I am not sure that my nastiness can do anything to
harm the title. Has anyone ever met Ruhiyyih Khanum? I have, and I
can tell you from first hand experience, she was not NICE!

The problem with most Baha'is is they are so busy playing "nice" and
they so value "nice" that they devalue and ignore more important
virtues and traits.

Sometimes we need confrontational people. Those who will stand up to
the "nice" Baha'is as they dismantle the System that Baha'u'llah
instituted and the other founders of the Faith built. God made us
all. God made me the way I am and I suggest that truly loving people
will accept me as I am. The whole idea is tolerance and unconditional
love to all and not a system of force and coercion to make us all
"nice" and tolerable.

The problem with the "nice" of the Baha'is is that usually it is
COMPLETELY FAKE and they turn into the nastiest and dirtiest people on
the planet as soon as you question them or confront them with an idea
that they find distasteful.

I can deal with the AHWAs of the world and their outrageous statements
much better than the FAKE NICE Baha'is. At least he is real.

Jeffrey
.



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