Re: Great Moments in Bahá'í Litigation, Part 2



The Godhead bless you, Jeffrey, for all your good work.

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On Jul 10, 3:01 am, Jeffrey <Jeffrey...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As part of the court action by the NSA of Wilmette (of the sans-
Guardian Bahá'ís) against the Orthodox Bahá'í Faith, the NSA's
attorney traveled to Perth Australia to take the deposition of Joel B.
Marangella, the OBF's Guardian.

The conclusion of the deposition seemed to sum up very nicely the
NSA's case against the OBF:

[MR. DOLAN, attorney for the NSA] Q. Earlier you stepped through many
of the articles on your web site with Mr Goldberg and you explained
what the meaning of those articles were. Do you recall that?
[JOEL B. MARANGELLA] A. Yes. Yes.
Q. All those explanations, were those based on your personal
interpretations of the documents and events captured there?
A. Not interpretation. It was mentioning facts, not
interpretations. Off-hand I can't remember was it a question of
interpretation; it was a question of facts. I mean, if someone does
not accept certain conditions of the Will and Testament of Abdu'l-
Baha, it's a fact, not an interpretation. They have no longer any
Hands of the Cause, that's a fact. They no longer have a head of the
Universal House of Justice, that's a fact. , it's not an
interpretation.
Q. And are you entitled to conclude that because you're the Guardian
and so interpreter?
A. Well, I would tell them to read the Will and Testament of Abdu'l-
Baha and there is it. It says that the Guardians are sacred head
"sacred head for life of the Universal of Justice". I can show that
document or Shoghi Effendi has said it, "It's a sacred immutable
document" and it should be endure as long as the Dispensation of
Balla'u'llah endures. So what else is it?
Q. So that all has to do with your reading of the Will and Testament
of Abdu'l-Baha?
A. Well, it's evidence, it's evidence. Well, not my reading, it's
Shoghi Effendi's statement, his clear statement, that this document is
sacred - a sacred document, co-equal on status with the Kitab-i-Aqdas
which is Baha'u'llah's most sacred book. He says its equal parts.
See, so it's there, it's his statement, inviolable.
Q. But those are your articles, correct, on the web site ......
A. Well, they're my articles, yes.
Q. So - - -
A. I constantly quote Shoghi Effendi to support whatever I say.
Q. But you wrote all of those articles on your web site?
A. Yes, yes. Definitely.
Q. I have nothing further.
MR GOLDBERG: I have nothing else.
MR. DOLAN: Thank you very much.
MR MARANGELLA: Okay. Thank you. Do I say it's my pleasure?
MR DOLAN: Maybe a stretch - - -

DEPOSITION CONCLUDED

From Transcript of Deposition of Joel B. Marangella, April 30, 2007

(pp. 201:10 to 203:13). Exhibit A to the OBF's Surreply.

To see the Court documents go to:http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html

Jeffrey
from the True Seeker bloghttp://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/


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