Re: Bahai Etiqutte on the SRB



Hi, Kent.

"Kent Johnson" (kent@xxxxxxxxxx) writes:

So lets start with the first matter at hand. You want us to make a policy
and explain why telling someone what they would say, as in "You would advise
disobedience to the Universal House of Justice" without evidence that the
person would in fact advise something like that, or evidence that they had
said something to that effect.

Let's assume that we all want to be polite and Baha'i-like. If that is the
case then we shouldn't, for example, tell people what they would say. It is
a very common occurrence, but it is not polite, in my opinion. It is like
if you and I were talking about, say, Baha'i etiquette in this thread and I
said "Albert, you don't care anything about etiquette". The better, more
polite way to handle the issue would be to say "Albert, do you care about
etiquette?" Or "If you care about etiquette wouldn't you stop putting words
in people's mouths?" Do you see the difference?

Many thanks for your comments. What I hear you saying here is that SRB
come up with a policy of explaining why it's not allowing some people
access to posting on the list, because they would advocate disobedience or
whatever? By phrasing my perception like this, I allow you to perceive how
effectively you communicated and correct any misconceptions I may have.

I could then proceed to, but since SRB is precensored, nothing could get
on anyway without being scrutinized, so why have a list of people who
aren't allowed on, censor posts, not individuals. However, that comment
may not apply if I didn't accurately understand your transmission.

In any case, what do you think? Where should we go from here?

One of my pet peeves that I have never stated before, is when people say
"what do you think" without stating what they think. Often they are trying
to trap people into saying something they know is wrong so that they can
pounce later. So I always strive to provide my opinion when I ask other's
their opinions.

Well, now that certainly isn't polite, waiting to pounce. It's not
effective communication either. Communication is about honest sharing of
opinions and understandings, not about waiting to pounce.

In that spirit I wish to provide my opinion: I think we could make a list of
offenses and a clear way of pointing out behavior that just isn't polite.

Well, it makes sense, if you're going to censor material to let people
know what the limits are. Maybe the Baha'i focus is positive, so you have
a statement as to what is included, and only if someone doesn't measure up
does it become necessary to state so, and maybe indicate how it would
measure up.

And thanks! --Kent

Thrive,

Michael

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