Re: Israeli IDF Report of June 1948 Concluded that 70% of Palestinian Exodus Caused by Haganah/IDF Operations and Activities of Dissident Jewish Organizations. (was: When will the Arabs admit that they caused their own naqba?)
- From: jgarbuz <jgarbuz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 17:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
On May 17, 8:49 am, "peace.seeker.27" <vesuvian.doppelga...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On May 16, Shlomo <stanle...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 16, "peace.seeker.27" <vesuvian.doppelga...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 16, Shlomo <stanle...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Why are there so-called Arab refugees 60 years after the establishment
of Israel?
Answer: Because they were victims of Ethnic Cleansing and they want
what was stolen from them: their homes, their farms, their businesses,
and their possessions.
And in 2000/2001, Arafat turned down 30 gigabucks compensation;
Just like 30 gigabucks is not a real number, there was
never a real offer at Camp David . The proposed map
was never published because the proposed Palestinian
state looked like Swiss cheese: a disconnected series
of Bantustans which could never become a viable state.<
Swiss cheese is better than no cheese, and too good for rats like them
anyway. The real truth is, that the Palestinian were never a nation,
and will never be a nation, because they are not a distinct
nationality. They are Arabs, for the most part. The Kurds are a real
nation, with a real ancient history, but they have been denied a state
since WWI.
They certainly deserve a state far more so than the so-called
"Palestinians." The only thing these Arabs have is a desire for
revenge, vandetta, and you can never build a real state on that. You
can't build a state on hate. YOu have to build it on love, like the
love the returning Zionist JEws had for their ancient land.
There would be no justice for the refugees, who would
FOREVER be prohibited from returning, although
Israel generously offered to allow OTHER STATES
to compensate them.
Negotiations continued after Camp David at Taba, but
Barak broke off negotiations even though progress was
being made.
but
also note that there is STILL no offer of compensation to the 850,000
Jews expelled from Arab nations, or to the families of those who left
in pine boxes.
Two wrongs do not make a right. Anyway, Zionist
terrorists set off bombs in Iraq, killing some Jews,N
The Mufti killed lots of Arabs who wanted some modus vivendi with the
JEws too. The terrorists have always had the upper hand in Arab
society.
in a successful campaign to make the Jews flee to
Israel. They were not expelled. And many clever
Iraqi Jews were able sell their homes and take their
money out of Iraq, so there is nothing to compensate.<
So why didn't the Arab states give the Jewish properties to the
Palestinians? Also, you forget the Baghdad pogrom during WWII.
But why didn't the Arabs give the Iraqi Jews a state in Iraq? Or the
Kurds? After all, they were there longer than the Arabs.The Arabs in
Eretz Yisrael have no right to a state. Like the JEws, they are just
residents on the land of a different people - the Jewish people. The
League of Nations explicitly referred to "non-Jewish residents" in
Palestine. They are Arabs and part of the Arab people, but the land
they were living on is Jewish. Just like there is Kurdish land that
Arabs have sought to take from the Kurds.
Jews were free to live in Egypt until Zionists terrorists
recruited Jews there to set off bombs in a false flag
operation that targeted American and British offices in
Egypt in order to destabilize the new Nasser
government, in what later became known as the LAVON
AFFAIR. That, and the pre-emptive Israeli attacks on
Sinai in 1956, caused most Egyptians to look at all Jews
who were Egyptian citizens as (not surprisingly) spies
and terrorists.<
Israel is Jewish land, and the reason why Jews lived in Arab lands,
is because Arab and other non-Jews had occupied Jewish land. The Jews
came to Babylon because they were exiled by the Babylonians. As for
Israeli attacks in Egypt, you forget that after attacking ISrael, and
being defeated, and even though the Israelis took part of the Sinai in
1949. and then forced to return it, the Egyptians refused to make
peace with ISrael. So Israel had every right to attack a state that is
at war with it, and that goes for right now too. If a state chooses to
remain at war with Israel, why has Israel no right to attack it?
Israel has the right to attack any state that didn't sign a peace
treaty, including Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and every one of the
other ARab or Muslim states that refuse to recognize it and sign a
peace treaty. Since Egypt and Jordan signed peace treaties, Israel has
not attacked or taken any territory from them any more. BTW, I know
Egyptian Jews in Israel who told me how their parents had been
tortured in police stations back in the 1960s. So don't play the myth
that all was completely well with the Jews in Egypt. Even Copts have
had no easy time in Egypt.
.
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- When will the Arabs admit that they caused their own naqba?
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- Israeli IDF Report of June 1948 Concluded that 70% of Palestinian Exodus Caused by Haganah/IDF Operations and Activities of Dissident Jewish Organizations. (was: When will the Arabs admit that they caused their own naqba?)
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