Re: We're Muslims. We can't be blamed.

On Aug 9, 3:13 pm, Shlomo <stanle...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 9, 5:48 pm, Theodore Herzl <AntiZioN...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 9, 2:09 pm, Shlomo <stanle...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
All the various agreements incorporated in the 1919 Paris Peace
Conference and League of Nations actions regarding the governing of
former Central Powers territories and restoration of national
homelands.

But the British were in charge of the Mandate, and thus were the legal
and legitimate authority and thus were not in violation of themselves.

One of the conditions of the Mandate was the restoration of the Jewish
homeland in Palestine.


So what, that does not excuse terrorism and murder against the legal
and legitimate government of the Mandate because you don't like the
rules.


I notice that you totally ignore the War of Genocide that the Arab
Murders and Terrorists have been waging against the Zionists since
1882.

Yet it was the Zionists who picked the fight when they began to invade
Palestine with the stated goal of taking it over. The indigenous
population of Palestine did not hunt down Jews in Europe and start a
war, they defended themselves against the invading Zionists, so stop
putting the cart before the horse.

I rebutted this assertion the first time you posted it. Stop wasting
my time.


You have rebutted nothing, you have tried to make excuses, exposed
your ignorance of who was in charge of the Mandate and made baseless
accusations, but you have not proven ANYTHING.


The Zionists were LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who LEGALLY PURCHASED land in our
ANCESTRAL HOMELAND. Anybody trying to drive these LEGAL IMMIGRANTS
off the land they LEGALLY PURCHASED is a MURDERER and TERRORIST.

Your point is ANSWERED! We're done with this part of this discussion.


OK, so I accept your defeat as you have not proved that they were
legal, as obviously since they were terrorists, how can the be LEGAL
IMMIGRANT TERRORISTS who LEGALLY STOLE LAND.

You have been proven wrong, the British and the UN were the only ones
who could determine what was legal or not, but not a bunch of ZioNazi
terrorists.


I've answered your point. There would have been no need for Zionist
terrorism against the British had they not been in violation of
international law regarding the re-establishment of the Jewish
homeland in Palestine and had they not caved in to Arab terrorism.

As I have shown, there was no international law, the British
controlled the Mandate and thus were the legal and legitimate
authority and rulers of the Mandate. If the ZioNazis had a problem
with that, they could have used legal means, gone to the UN or taken
it up in the international courts instead of resorting to terrorism,
but like the ZioNazis we see today, they behaved like common, every
day, run of the mill and very despicable terrorists.

Answered as well. The British were in violation of the League of
Nations Mandate.


They were in charge of the League of Nations Mandate you idiot. So
what they said goes... PERIOD. The ZioNais could have taken their
case before the UN like non-terrorists do, but short of the UN ruling
otherwise, the British were in charge not the ZioNazi terrorists.


Also, I noticed you ignore that the British caved into Arab
Terrorism. Why?


Because the were in charge of the Mandate and it is irrelevant to the
issue of ZioNazi terrorism.

Not ever crime committed by Jews can be blamed on someone else,
regardless of what your handlers have told you Shlomo.


They were almost 65% of the population in the area allocated to them
by the UN in the 1947 Partition Plan. Two nations? Remember? That
was the plan (like Pakistan and India).

The UN never allocated them jack squat in 1947, the General Assembly
made suggestions to the Security Council, but it did not have the
legal authority to partition land, so that exposes your lie on its
own The UN, at the recommendation of the GA, did send Count Folk
Bernadette to make a recommendation on a partition to the SC, but
Jewish terrorists murdered him and his driver to prevent it.

Bernadette was sent there AFTER the end of the mandate and AFTER the
SECOND UN ORDERED cease fire of July 17, 1948. He was not sent there
to implement the Partition Plan.

He was sent there per UNSCR 242 and was murdered by Israel's founding
terrorists to prevent the UN Security Council from implementing his
recommendations. He was murdered by Israel's founding terrorists on
September 17, 1948 and soon after on September 22, 1948, Israel adopts
the "Area of Jurisdiction and Powers Ordinance".



Also, it was the ARAB REFUSAL to allow implementation of the Partition
Plan that was the root cause of any conflict on or after November 29,
1947. Everything else you say is after-the-fact Monday morning
quarterbacking trying to refit the puzzle pieces into what you want it
to look like.


Actually is was the murder of the UN mediator by Jewish terrorists and
Israel's attempt to take land outside of the partition recommended by
the UNGA, including the occupation of Jerusalem. which had been
allocated by the UN as a corpus separatum to be administered under a
United Nations trusteeship, that prevented the UN Security Council
from going forward with a plan of partition.


You're out on this one too, Teddy.



Like so many things, you seem to believe you can just parrot Zionist
propaganda and it is so. LOL



The Zionists did not come and CLAIM property; they LEGALLY PURCHASED
it!!!

No they did not, the stole it. And besides, when a Jew buys land in
Miami, it does not become part of Israel .....Understand?????

No it doesn't; however-

1. A supermajority of Jews in an area will probably result in Jewish
representatives in the State Legislature and probably in the U.S.
Congress for that district.


So, no super-majority existed in Palestine.


2. If it's in an unincorporated area, which basically describes what
Palestine was, the municipal government that will be incorporated will
be controlled by Jews.


But that was not the case there either. Jew represent such a
minuscule percentage of the worlds and US population, that getting a
majority is nearly impossible.


2a. If there's a large Jewish immigration into an already
incorporated municipality, Jews will be elected to public office (like
Miami Beach).


So are you saying that Miami Beach is part of Israel?


3. Unlike the example you gave, there was no nation when the Zionist
return to Palestine began. The Zionists built a nation and was given
sovereignty over an area that was almost 65% Jewish. This was no
different than how the 1919 Peace Conference took care of other
stateless nationalities as well.


LOL Blah, blah, blah blah blah. The region was under the British
Mandate and Palestine was under the Ottoman Empire before that, so how
you can make such false and misleading statements is quite amazing.


The Zionists did not steal property; they LEGALLY PURCHASED IT!!! Any
later acquisition of property through conquest came as a consequence
of wars that THE ARABS provoked, and lost.

Jews did not even own the majority of the land, and regardless it was
still part of the mandate as ownership only goes so far.

REFUTED OVER AND OVER. The KEY NUMBER is that the Jews were almost
65% of the population of that area of Palestine allocated to Israel.


1947 Population of Palestine

Total - 1,955,260
Muslim - 1,135,269 58%
Jews - 650,000 33.%
Christians - 153,621 8%
Others: - 16,370 1%

So as you can see, Jews were not even close to being a majority of the
population


The 1919 Paris Peace Conference and the League of Nations Mandate
included the re-restablishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

The British were in charge of the the Mandate you fool. I asked
what ruling authority deemed the actions of the legal and legitimate
government of Palestine illegal

Answer: NOBODY

The actions of the British, in bowing to Arab Terrorism and stopping
Jewish immigration in 1936, was a violation of the LoN Mandate and the
1919 Peace Treaties.


What legal and legitimate authority ruled that they were violation
Shlomo?



This point has been answered. By caving in to Arab terrorism and
stopping Jewish immigration, the British were in violation of the
treaties and other international law specifying the re-establishment
of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

Who ruled that they were in violation of the treaties and
international law? There certainly was no UN ruling to that effect
and the international courts never ruled the British were in
violation.

So who made that Judgement Shlomo?

The terrorists themselves?

Answered above. The British caved into ARAB TERRORISM (which I notice
you totally ignore).


That is because it is unproven by you that any legal authority ruled
that they caved and it is irrelevant.

Once again, other than the terrorist themselves, WHO RULED THAT THE
BRITISH CAVED AND WERE IN VIOLATION OF THE MANDATE SHLOMO???????

Kinda hard to answer that one considering that no legal authority ever
made such a ruling isn't it Shlomo. LOL


Answered already, at least 3 times in this response alone.

So you're saying that when a group doesn't agree with the legal and
legitimate government that it should just engage in terrorism.
Forget the courts, forget the UN, just start murdering people like a
Zionist.

Excuse me, Teddy, but it's the ARAB TERRORISTS that forced the
issue.


Oh, so now comes the lame old ZioNazi blame the Arabs for what Jews do
excuse.

First off, there was no connection between the two. The ZioNazid
merely engaged in terrorism against the legal and legitimate
government of Palestine to further their sinister goals.

Do you people ever accept personal responsibility for anything?



The Arab Riots of 1930, and the British caving into those ARAB
MURDERERS instead of putting them in their place, was the cause of any
later actions. The Jews were there LEGALLY!!!!!!

Now I'm wondering if Timothy McVay was not a Zionists Jew after all,
as that is precisely what he did.

Irrelevant, and just plain stupid.


Actually it is very similar to the rational you are using. Very
sick and disturbing I might add, but very similar.


At this point, you're just an Arab liar who believes his own lies.
They were LEGAL IMMIGRANTS authorized by the Sultan of the Ottoman
Empire.

Was the Sultan or the British given the control of the Mandate by the
League of Nations?

The RETURN TO ZION began as early as 1878. Learn history, Teddy.


BFD -


I think we're done, Teddy. You have not refuted a single point I
raised. You totally ignore the Arab Terrorism and the Arab War of
Genocide against the Jews that is the root cause of the conflict.
You totally ignore that the Zionist return to our Ancestral Homeland
was in accordance with the laws in effect for Palestine.


Here is where the ZioNazi runs away when his lame arguments have been
utterly smashed to pieces. Insults are next.


Very simply, you ignore reality.


Calling the pot black again I see.


Finally, you also ignore that when it is to the Moslems advantage to
dismember a country, as they did to India and Serbia, they won't
hesitate. The only time there's a problem is if another group won't
cave in to Moslem domination.


LOL. - Now comes the change the subject attempt when the ZioNazis
realize they have no hope of winning.

How thoroughly pathetic, even though it is absolutely predictable.


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