White Nationalist Hypocrisy
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- Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:47:52 -0700
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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:44:58 -0700
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Subject: White Nationalist Hypocrisy
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On Jun 2, 8:28 am, MattKern <MattK...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: "Paul Fromm" <p...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <c...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Stormfront Under Attack By Canadian Tribunal Witness > Date:
Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:34:57 -0500 > Stormfront Under Attack By Canadian
Tribunal Witness > Dear Free Speech Supporter: > The
STORMFRONT Community of White nationalists worldwide, over > 100,000
strong, is under attack in testimony to be given tomorrow by Karen >
Mock, a child psychologist, who is to testify as an "expert witness"
for the > Canadian Human Rights Commission, in webmaster Marc
Lemire's
Internet free > speech hearing which resumes at the Novotel Hotel in
Mississauga. > Mr. Lemire has launched a constitutional
challenge against > Canada's notorious Sec. 13.1 of the Canadian
Human
Rights Act - the Internet > censorship law, where truth and intent
are
no defence. > In a supplementary expert report filed last
week, Mock, who has > scarfed up more than a million dollars over the
years in government grants foranti-racist work writes: "Extensive
research by the Anti-Defamation League has > concluded there are
three
important measurable respects in which the > 'electronic community of
hate' ['Hate' is nowhere defined, but would seem to > be views the
Israel Firsters at the ADL don't like.] strengthens the world of >
right-wing extremists of-line. 1) The Internet provides instant and
anonymous > access to propaganda that inspires and guides criminal
activity.' [Neither > STORMFRONT nor the Freedomsite has ever
promoted
criminal activity.] ... 2) It > helps to more effectively co-ordinate
their activities. [So, how is that a > legal concern? All political
groups, including the ADL organize and seek to > build up the base of
followers.] 3) And the Internet offers new ways to make > money to
support their cause, legally and illegally. [Nothing illegal is sold
on STORMFRONT or The Freedomsite.] > The Simon Weisenthal
Centre argues that access to the Internet and > the increase in the
number of hate-based sites [how do they define that?] has > given
'extremists the largest potential audience for recruits and for >
propaganda that they have ever had.' [Of course, the well-funded
anti-
racism > industry, including the ADL and B'nai Brith, can use the
Internet to push > their ideas as well. Perhaps, it's the fact that
the Internet breaks the > monopolists near total stranglehold of the
mass media that upsets the ADL and > Mock.] > And it was
Don Black himself, founder and administrator of > STORMFRONT in the
U.S.A., who first realized this potential of the Internet. > He
hailed
it as a 'major breakthrough' with a potential of reach millions, and
a significant advance to developing a White rights movement,. He went
on to > describe it this way: 'The Internet is a mean s of planting
seeds for the > future. There are a lot of middle-class people who
feel disaffected - and in > STORMFRONT they can find when they can't
in the mass media. It's about > building a community and attracting a
hard core of supporters.' [Again, what's > illegal or wrong with
that?] > His goal was clearly expressed in the words of
the STORMFRONT > logo: White Pride World Wide. The site is meant to
be
a 'White Nationalist > Resource Page' - a resource for those
courageous men and women fighting to > preserve their White Western
culture, ideals and freedom of speech and > association - a forum for
planning strategies and forming political and social > groups to
ensure victory.' [And why not?] > Black's idea of 'White
Pride' involved demeaning, demonizing and > menacing Jews and non-
Whites, while 'victory' meant the creation of ethnically > cleansed
political enclaves. [Where has STORMFRONT advocated that and since >
when is criticism of Zionist Israeli Firsters, demonizing all Jews,
many of > whom are not Zionists?] > In Canada, Marc
Lemire's Freedomsite plays a comparable role, an > eclectic resource
for White racialists and nationalists, champions of freedom > of
speech, [Freedom of speech is a bad thing?] with links to the
Heritage
Front, Paul Fromm's two sites - the Canadian Association for Free
Expression > and Citizens for Foreign Aid Reform. The Freedomsite
boasts uncensored > webspace for the political dissident.' [and
that's
wrong?] > The fur will fly during Mock's testimony over
the next few days. > Joining the Marc Lemire Defence Team
is veteran Victoria lawyer, > Douglas H. Christie, who has won free
speech battles before the Supreme Court > of Canada. Mr. Christie,
the
Battling Barrister, represents the Canadian Free > Speech League, an
intervener or "interested party" in this case. > Paul Fromm >
Director
CANADIAN ASSOCIATION FOR FREE EXPRESSION > Join the Marc Lemire
Defence Team > Support Marc Lemire's Constitutional Challenge > Be
part of our team and contribute what you can to defeat this horrible
law > and protect Freedom of Speech in Canada ! > Via Mail: Send
Cheque or Money Order to: > Canadian Association for Free Expression,
P.O. Box 332, > Rexdale, ON > Canada M9W 5L3 Stormfront bitching
about censorship? What hypocrisy! Their moderators ban anyone who
dares disagree with her resident bigots. Want proof? Read the
Stormfront Forum and look at all the former posters whose messages
bear the notation"account closed" or "account suspended". These
people
did not voluntarily close their accounts. They banned me and gave me
no reason for doing so. If I had broken some rule, surely they could
have told me which one it was.
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From: Joe <jbr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:41:03 -0700
Local: Sat, Jun 2 2007 11:41 am
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On Jun 2, 8:28 am, MattKern <MattK...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: "Paul Fromm" <p...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <c...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Stormfront Under Attack By Canadian Tribunal Witness
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 03:34:57 -0500
Stormfront Under Attack By Canadian Tribunal Witness
Dear Free Speech Supporter:
The STORMFRONT Community of White nationalists worldwide, over
100,000 strong, is under attack in testimony to be given tomorrow by Karen
Mock, a child psychologist, who is to testify as an "expert witness" for the
Canadian Human Rights Commission, in webmaster Marc Lemire's Internet free
speech hearing which resumes at the Novotel Hotel in Mississauga.
Mr. Lemire has launched a constitutional challenge against
Canada's notorious Sec. 13.1 of the Canadian Human Rights Act - the Internet
censorship law, where truth and intent are no defence.
In a supplementary expert report filed last week, Mock, who has
scarfed up more than a million dollars over the years in government grants foranti-racist work writes: "Extensive research by the Anti-Defamation League has
concluded there are three important measurable respects in which the
'electronic community of hate' ['Hate' is nowhere defined, but would seem to
be views the Israel Firsters at the ADL don't like.] strengthens the world of
right-wing extremists of-line. 1) The Internet provides instant and anonymous
access to propaganda that inspires and guides criminal activity.' [Neither
STORMFRONT nor the Freedomsite has ever promoted criminal activity.] ... 2) It
helps to more effectively co-ordinate their activities. [So, how is that a
legal concern? All political groups, including the ADL organize and seek to
build up the base of followers.] 3) And the Internet offers new ways to make
money to support their cause, legally and illegally. [Nothing illegal is sold
on STORMFRONT or The Freedomsite.]
The Simon Weisenthal Centre argues that access to the Internet and
the increase in the number of hate-based sites [how do they define that?] has
given 'extremists the largest potential audience for recruits and for
propaganda that they have ever had.' [Of course, the well-funded anti-racism
industry, including the ADL and B'nai Brith, can use the Internet to push
their ideas as well. Perhaps, it's the fact that the Internet breaks the
monopolists near total stranglehold of the mass media that upsets the ADL and
Mock.]
And it was Don Black himself, founder and administrator of
STORMFRONT in the U.S.A., who first realized this potential of the Internet.
He hailed it as a 'major breakthrough' with a potential of reach millions, and
a significant advance to developing a White rights movement,. He went on to
describe it this way: 'The Internet is a mean s of planting seeds for the
future. There are a lot of middle-class people who feel disaffected - and in
STORMFRONT they can find when they can't in the mass media. It's about
building a community and attracting a hard core of supporters.' [Again, what's
illegal or wrong with that?]
His goal was clearly expressed in the words of the STORMFRONT
logo: White Pride World Wide. The site is meant to be a 'White Nationalist
Resource Page' - a resource for those courageous men and women fighting to
preserve their White Western culture, ideals and freedom of speech and
association - a forum for planning strategies and forming political and social
groups to ensure victory.' [And why not?]
Black's idea of 'White Pride' involved demeaning, demonizing and
menacing Jews and non-Whites, while 'victory' meant the creation of ethnically
cleansed political enclaves. [Where has STORMFRONT advocated that and since
when is criticism of Zionist Israeli Firsters, demonizing all Jews, many of
whom are not Zionists?]
In Canada, Marc Lemire's Freedomsite plays a comparable role, an
eclectic resource for White racialists and nationalists, champions of freedom
of speech, [Freedom of speech is a bad thing?] with links to the Heritage
Front, Paul Fromm's two sites - the Canadian Association for Free Expression
and Citizens for Foreign Aid Reform. The Freedomsite boasts uncensored
webspace for the political dissident.' [and that's wrong?]
The fur will fly during Mock's testimony over the next few days.
Joining the Marc Lemire Defence Team is veteran Victoria lawyer,
Douglas H. Christie, who has won free speech battles before the Supreme Court
of Canada. Mr. Christie, the Battling Barrister, represents the Canadian Free
Speech League, an intervener or "interested party" in this case.
Paul Fromm
Director
CANADIAN ASSOCIATION FOR FREE EXPRESSION
Join the Marc Lemire Defence Team
Support Marc Lemire's Constitutional Challenge
Be part of our team and contribute what you can to defeat this horrible law
and protect Freedom of Speech in Canada !
Via Mail: Send Cheque or Money Order to:
Canadian Association for Free Expression,
P.O. Box 332,
Rexdale, ON
Canada M9W 5L3
Stormfront bitching about censorship? What hypocrisy!
Their moderators ban anyone who dares disagree with her resident
bigots. Want proof? Read the Stormfront Forum and look at all the
former posters whose messages bear the notation"account closed" or
"account suspended".
These people did not voluntarily close their accounts.
They banned me and gave me no reason for doing so.
If I had broken some rule, surely they could have told me which one
it
was.
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