Re: Asslifters = Personas non grata in the Land Down Under

Mathias Donien wrote:
> TUKA wrote:
>
> > ["Followup-To:" header set to talk.politics.mideast.]
> > On 2005-11-24, Mathias Donien <usenet_trash@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>GROUND ZERO MECCA wrote:
> >>
> >>>Get out if you want Sharia law, Australia tells Muslims
> >>>
> >>>CANBERRA: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
> >>>Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a
> >>>bid to head off potential terror attacks. ...
> >>>
> >>>http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_25-8-2005_pg1_2
> >>
> >>I do not like Sharia law but to prohibit voluntary use of it is wrong.
> >
> >
> > Excuse me? You mean that I can or should be able to set up my own set of
> > laws that contradict the state's laws?
>
> Yes, absolutely. The only legitimate set of laws is that which I agree
> to prior any business takes place.
>


Then the sharia-thumpers may find it convincing enough to leave
Australia for sharia places, no doubt, enlightened.

> > The reason for a law is to encourage good behavior and prevent bad
> > behavior and thereby advance the social good as seen by the people
> > framing the law.
>
> Exactly. But different people have different ideas about what qualifies
> for good behaviour or bad behaviour.

All the more reason for sharia-thumpers to stay home, that is, in their
places of origin, otherwise they may be mighty misunderstood.

> Therefore people who frame a law or
> a rule need to come to a consensus.

Sharia-thumpers did not participate, to the extent of my knowledge,
either in forming of the country, or its legal base.

> If they do not come to a consensus
> then they cannot make business together and must avoid each other.

Bravo.

> > To allow Sharia law, with its discrimination against
> > women among other things, is directly at odds with secular law. I don't
> > care for who the discrimination is "voluntary", it is still wrong. (Note
> > that you won't find it being framed by Muslim women, either, other than
> > for claims that that they support it -- under duress.)
>
> I don't know why Muslim women would voluntarily follow Sharia law

Maybe because non-muslim womyn wouldn't?

> (it
> seems illogical to me)

Nobody's perfect.

> but if they insist and apply it only to
> themselves then nobody's rights are infringed.

Then wife-beating and honor-killing is OK.

> If they want to escape
> then the appropriate instrument is an underground railway but certainly
> not prohibition.

Contact Matrix.

> > In particular, apostasy is an abomination. That prohibits freedom of religion.
> > And you think it should be allowed in Australia. Geesh.
>
> Only for those who apply that to themselves and leave others out of it.

Muslim killing of, or otherwise inflicting bodily damage on muslim
apostates is OK then.

> >>This is no legitimate act but it will be enforced nevertheless (as usual).
> >
> > You are addled. Sharia law is an abomination.
>
> I would agree that Sharia law is an abomination but for me it does not
> apply. I do not use it.

No problem.

.

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