Are Muslims Gay?
- From: "Mister_George" <georgemvw999@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 20 Sep 2005 10:53:17 -0700
Are Muslims Queer?
By George M Weinert V
Sunday, November 23, 2003
The lesson today, boys and girls is a continuation of our lecture on
these funny-looking folks called "Muslims' and their HISTORICAL
CONNECTIONS TO HOMOSEXUALITY.
Let's begin with some background on the "Gay" boys first:
I may, therefore, give a short sketch of the
sexual fascination that "boys" have displayed
throughout history:
Homosexuality, also known as sexual inversion,
means sexual attraction of a person to one of the
same sex i.e. man to man and woman to woman. The
latter is called lesbianism for its association
with the Aegean island of Lesbos.
This deliberation is, however, concerned with male
homosexuality only. Those who practice it, think
of it as a delight but its opponents find it
disgusting. The writer is neither its practitioner
nor its advocate, yet it is a real issue because
it has influenced the course of history, and
therefore, requires a frank discussion whether one
likes it or not. This is why the modern legal
thinking holds it as no crime if the act takes
place in private between consenting adults.
Is it a genetic condition or an acquired habit?
Though one cannot give an exclusive opinion on the
subject, one can refer to certain facts, leaving
the final conclusion to the reader:
The huge systematic surveys of homosexuality that
A. C. Kinsey conducted in 1948 and 1953 showed
that 37 per cent of U.S. males had indulged in
this activity. Again, the American anthropologist,
C. S. Ford, and psychologist, F. A. Bench, studied
primitive societies during 1951. In 76
communities, it was found that 64 per cent
accepted it as a normal practice.
Homosexuality has been observed in certain animals
such as apes; cows in heat are known to mount
other cows, dogs, rabbits, lions
and horses.
Amongst humans, it is more prevalent, and is
especially noticeable in societies where
sex-segregation is observed. The boys are
stimulated by the boys and resort to this practice
for sexual gratification. This may not be
desirable owing to its effects on mental and
physical development of boys before reaching
adolescence. On the other hand, girls' passions
are unduly suppressed to make them pious, pure and
perfect. They are taught and subjected to a
discipline of high morality. Thus value of
virginity is raised sky-high, and men want to
marry virgins only, even though they may have lost
their own chastity during the early stage of their
life. It may tame the sexual outlook of women but
it certainly distorts the emotional view of boys,
leading to the growth of a male-dominant society,
which develops such vices as dowry and legal
disparities regarding inheritance and matrimonial
rights of the spouses.
A law of Physics states that dissimilar poles
attract and similar poles repel. This rule
applies, not only to inanimate objects but also
humans, and its operation starts right from
babyhood. Male infants are inclined towards their
mothers, and females to their fathers for this
reason, and not owing to any unresolved sexual
emotions. Of course, both genders are born with a
sexual blue print but it takes many years to
mature; until this happens carnal drive does not
count for anything, and requires no resolution. If
this were not true, seeing babes copulate would be
a common spectacle. However, exceptions are always
there: some children may mature earlier and
possess varying degrees of sexual intensity.
Regarding homosexuality, one may say that the said
law of Physics breaks down, and as a result, the
similars begin to attract.
The paradox is resolved when we realise that
virility is a part of the dominance-urge: more
virile a person, the greater the desire to have a
harem or indulge in promiscuity: lek behaviour,
which impels animals to possess numerous females
for proving their dominance, establishes this fact
firmly. Physically, man is no different from other
primates: his urge of dominance is even greater:
men like Genghis Khan and Adolf Hitler, who would
slaughter a million men just to look superior,
support this point of view.
One may add that homosexuality, an age-old
experience, is an epiphenomenon, which has always
existed besides hetrosexuality. It defies the
physical law of the opposites, yet it is governed
by the enormity of sexual drive the same way as
the brute might of atomic force equally applies to
the negative and positive charges irrespective of
their dissimilarity.
Sexual desires is one of compelling drives of man;
he may commit any crime or sin to satisfy it: the
Biblical story, which shows that Adam rebelled
against God to please Eve, seeks to illustrate
this point. Man's greatest drive is what I have
termed as dominance-urge; sexual drive, being a
part of it, is likely to transgress the normal
patterns of behaviour for its gratification.
However, there is one difference between man's and
animal's behaviour; he wants to justify his action
on moral or spiritual ground, no matter how fake,
fictitious or fraudulent it may be. He uses both
religion (God) and reason for this purpose to
relieve his conscience from the burden of guilt. A
persistent desire to satisfy conscience shows that
humanity is destined to achieve moral perfection,
and the day is approaching when all political and
economic barriers, which stand in its way, shall
be broken down.
Man's story for giving homosexuality religious
sanctity is really interesting. Though Greece is
not the origin of sexual inversion, it is
certainly the Greek ingenuity, which lent it the
spiritual grace:
According to a Greek legend, Ganymede, the son of
Tros, King of Troy, was so beautiful that Zeus,
the king of gods, became enamoured of him.
Disguised as an eagle, he swooped down on this
young lad affectionately, and carried him off to
be his cup bearer i.e., to serve the God
intoxicating drinks.
The Greek legend has been frank and honest about
the interpretation of this incident. It is not
like the Muslim scholars, who pretend that
G(h)ilman i.e., the ever-young, bride-like boys of
paradise are there to serve drinks to the
faithful, and nothing else. On the contrary, the
Greeks believed that Zeus, the Chief God, had a
homosexual passion for Ganymede. In Rome, he
(Ganymede) appears as Catamitus i.e., Catamite,
which means a young lad kept for sexual purposes.
In pursuance of the Greek tradition, this practice
became so rife amongst the Romans that some
historians believe it to be the cause of their
moral ruination, which eventually led to the
decline of their political grandeur.
"Homosexuality seems to have been popularised by
Socrates, the great Greek philosopher." Plato
speaks of Socrates and Alcibiades as lovers, and
describes the philosopher "in chase of the fair
youth."
Writing further about Socrates, Will Durant adds,
"he was not above giving advice to homosexuals and
hetairai on how to attract lovers."
Repeating opinion about the greatness of Socrates,
Will Durant says: "Or as Plato put it, with moving
simplicity, 'he was truly the wisest, and justest,
and best of all the men whom I have ever known."'
>>From the above, it is clear that homosexuality was
not looked down upon in Greece, otherwise, Plato
would not have showered such praise on Socrates,
who had a homosexual relationship with Alcibiades.
Will Durant is a highly respected historian of the
20th century. His statement is confirmed by an
account in the "International Library of Famous
Literature, Volume 2 (P. 693): He (Alcibiades) was
brought up in the house of Pericles, and lived on
terms of intimacy with Socrates."
Socrates was not only a great philosopher but also
a soldier of high stature. "At Potidaea he saved
both the life and the arms of the young
Alcibiades, and gave up in the youth's favour his
claim to the prize of velour."
Pederasty, which denotes sexual relationship
between an older man and a young lad, seems to
have been initiated by Socrates, who also happened
to be a mystic. Though mystical principles
practiced throughout the world are of Vedic
origin, mysticism entered Persia through Greece,
and then returned to India as Sufism.
As the mystical model, Socrates, had only one
shabby garment, which he wore throughout the year;
he was fully reconciled with his poverty, and felt
rich without possessing anything at all. Bearing
extreme hardships was one of his great virtues. He
could drink to his heart's content without ever
getting drunk. He had made himself immune to the
effects of cold and heat: when his fellow-soldiers
"wrapped themselves up carefully, and put fleeces
under their feet (in intolerably severe weather),
Socrates went out only with the same cloak on that
he usually wore, and walked barefoot upon the ice.
He was also known for meditation from dawn to
dusk, and whenever he did it, he was fully
absorbed in himself. "
When we look into these Socratic qualities, it
transpires that the Islamic mysticism (tasawwaf)
has been built around the Socratic model. I have
no doubt that the metaphoric eulogy of wine that
the Muslim Sufi saints habitually sing in their
poetry, is a legacy of the Socratic drinking
habit, and so is their love of boys, poverty,
Stoic contentment and meditation.
Socrates was an open book but Plato, who adopted
his several views, has not demonstrated his
frankness in stating some of them. One of the
issues has come to be known as Platonic love,
which emanates from the Socratic discourses:
According to Plato, man is composed of two part
-eternal and mortal: the former is termed as soul,
which is divine, whereas the mortal side being
passionate and vegetative, is profane, because it
has been assigned to man by the inferior gods,
though at the behest of the supreme deity. When
these appetitive passions are pursued, release of
soul from the body becomes difficult, and man
suffers from a very long cycle of reincarnations.
Plato states that the release of soul is possible
through knowledge only; this happens when mind is
led by Eros, the Greek love-god (the Indian Kama),
also known as sexual desire, which is the source
of affection, leading to knowledge. However, all
love is not productive because it can lead in
either direction - reason or passion, vice or
virtue. These divisions, he is said to have
inherited from the prevailing dualistic views.
Platonic love, which is essentially homosexual,
was encouraged by the excessive Greek fear of
over-population. It is for this reason that there
was only one household in a hundred that brought
up more than one girl; most daughters at birth
were exposed to die. This caused a shortage of
women, accelerating the need for homosexuality.
Apart from the social influence, Plato was guided
by his philosophical vision, and did not support
heterosexual love, whose purpose is procreation,
which leads to the imprisonment of soul in the
body. He held that people indulged in this kind of
love because they wanted to live through the
memories of their children. But those who have
creative desire for soul, shun woman. Secretof
spiritual begetting is,
therefore, love of man by man. In other words,
love of the leads to trouble but love of the
similar gender guarantees immortality. This is the
way of releasing the mind (soul) from the grip of
the matter (body). Yet, he did not think that love
between man and man implied carnal intercourse.
This is a deliberate ambiguity because it
evidently contradicts the function of Eros, which
concerns gratification of sexual desire.
What was, then, Platonic love all about? It was a
relationship between two males - one called
Erastes, the lover, and another Eromenos, the
beloved. Again, this relationship was between the
socially equals, and thus defied the universal law
of love, which acknowledges no barrier of caste,
colour or creed. It is a philosophical attempt to
invent a new type of pederasty, which inflates
erotic desire but forbids sexual gratification in
a vain hope to transform the carnal excitement
into imaginative and intellectual energy.
This view is simply absurd for being opposed to
practical realities of life. However, this theory
holds that as a beloved looks a model of beauty to
the lover, he inspires love and reverence in the
soul of latter. Initially, it is Eros, the sexual
desire, which stirs the soul through the beauty of
the youth (beloved); the beauty of the boy as
perceived by his lover, is reflected back,
arousing him (the youth), too. Thus, lover Eros
(passion) evokes a counter-Eros, which is a
reflection of the inspired love. Therefore, Eros
both inspires and is inspired in turn. As a
result, beauty of the lover and the beloved
becomes a mutual reflection in each other's soul,
leading them to march in tandem towards eternity.
What a manipulation of erotic love it is!
This mutual relationship between the two males
assumes that the lover is a teacher (as Socrates
was) to the beloved, but as far as knowledge is
concerned, the latter is a student. The lover as a
teacher looks upward in his own right whereas the
beloved looks up by reflection, thus both climb
the "ladder of love," but the lover is always
ahead of the beloved in search of eternity.
Socrates, the originator of the above theory
(modified by Plato) was the lover of Alcibiades,
who became a celebrated Athenian politician and
general. As a youth, he lived on terms of intimacy
with Socrates for a long time. Socrates, the great
Greek philosopher was a man of many virtues, and
rose to become a mentor of some immortal mystical
traditions, still followed in the east. But the
truth is that he was tired on a charge of
corrupting young boys, and sentenced to death. His
greatness is marked by his fearleshasness: he did
not escape from the prison when he was provided
with such an opportunity, he preferred to drink
hemlock (poison) and left this world as a brave
man of integrity.
Alexander, the Great, though a Macedonian, proved
to be the ambassador of the Greek culture, which
had been imbued with homosexuality, having an
intoxicating Divine flavour. He was not only a
rare military genius but also possessed some great
political and administrative qualities. He fell in
love with eastern manners; he wore eastern dress
and had two eastern queens, but his
heterosexuality was just a cover-up for the
eastern politics. He was a homosexual like the
Greeks, whose culture he loved and practised.
Hephaestion and Bago are two of his well-known
catamites. Through him, and afterwards his
generals, the Greek culture known as hellenism,
flourished in the Middle Eastern countries. It was
given an extra ictus by the fact that Alexander
claimed to be a god and was acknowledged and
worshipped as such throughout his eastern
dominious. The habits of god are bound to have a
quick and lasting influence on the character of
ordinary mortals. It penetrated the guts of the
Persian poetry so deeply that it has become living
eroticism in the mystical form of versification
and has spread to all the Muslim countries where
the Persian language has flourished. .
The Arabian peninsula was no exception. Not only
the South worshipped female deities connected with
the Greek tradition but hellenism also reached the
North, the land of the Prophet Muhammad. We find
the name of Alexander, the Great, mentioned in the
Koran as Dhool Karnain:
"They will question thee (Muhammad) concerning
Dhool Karnain. Say: I will recite to you a mention
of him ....."
One ought to note that the name of Alexander the
Great was not unheard of in the Hijaz (the
Prophet's country) because people were curious to
know more about him. Again, the Koran depicts
Alexander, the Great, as a righteous man to whom
Allah spoke and also left the making of vital
decisions:
We (Allah) said, "O Dhool Karnain,
either thou shalt chastise them,
Or thou shalt take towards them
a way of kindness " (The Cave XVIII: 85)
It is quite clear that the Koran has not condemned
Alexander, the Great. Instead, he has been
displayed as a righteous man, whose judgement
Allah trusted and respected! Obviously, his
homosexuality had no bearing on piety. This fact
is supported in the already quoted Mount LII: 20,
which states:
"While they (boys) hand therein (paradise) a cup
One to another wherein is no idle talk, no cause
of sin, and there go around youths, own, as if
they were concealed pearls."
These verses describe two facts clearly:
1. All Muslim men shall have "their own" boys who
are pretty like pearls, and
2. there will be "no cause of sin;" it means that
so liberal shall be the laws of paradise that
lasciviousness shall not count as a sin.
That this interpretation of the above Koranic
verse is correct and honest, is corroborated by
the facts of history. About the high society of
Arabia during its heyday, Professor Philip K.
Hitti wrties in his famous "History of the Arabs"
(10th edition, p. 341):
"The servants were almost all slaves recruited
from non-Muslim peoples and captured by force,
taken prisoners in time of war or purchased in
time of peace The white slaves ( Mamluk ) were
mainly Greeks and Slavs, Armenaisn and Berbers.
Certain slaves were eunuchs (Khisvan) attached to
the service of the harem. Others termed Ghilman,
who might also be eunuchs, were the recipients of
special favour from their masters, wore rich and
attractive uniforms and often beautified and
perfumed their bodies in effeminate fashion. We
read that Ghilman in the reign of al-Rashid, but
it was evidently al-Amin who, following the
Persian precedent, established in the Arabic world
the Ghilman institution for the practice of
unnatural sexual relations. A judge under al-Mamun
used four hundred such youths. Poets like
abu-Nuiwas did not disdain to give public
expression to their perverted passions and to
address amorous pieces of their composition to
beardless young boys."
These historical facts conform to the highly
erotic Koranic description of the paradisiac boys,
who are ever-young, pretty like pearls, dressed in
silk and brocades, and wear bracelets. Above all,
like Ganymede they serve wine in cups of crystal.
These boys are not servants as the Muslim scholars
pretend because a servant can be old, ugly and
poorly dressed.
The Persians (Iranians) had acquired love of
homosexuality from their conquering master,
Alexander the Great and his Greek soldiers. This
practice was made lawful among the Arabs by the
Koranic description of the beautiful boys:
al-Rashid and al-Amin were prominent rulers and
leaders of the Muslim world, which treated them as
the Model of Behaviour. This is the reason that
the Qazis (Muslim judges) who were expected to
live, and dispense justice according to the
principles of Islam, kept harems of boys
unashamedly.
Not only history testifies to what I have stated,
the Koran and hadith (the sayings and life
precedents of the Prophet) allude to even greater
sexual freedom, and this is done through a maze of
ambiguity and self-contradictions:
Islam apparently forbids anal intercourse with
women. There are several hadiths to this effect on
page 89 of Mishkat' volume 2. One hadith says that
the man who sodomises his woman is accursed but
another says:
"Your women are your tillage. Come to your tillage
from back or front but avoid the ones who suffer
miqad or menstruation."
"Miqad" means anus. The mullahs have deliberately
tried to misinterpret it by saying that Islam
forbids anal intercourse with women. In this
hadith, it implies that a man must not use the
back of his woman during her monthly period,
otherwise it is permitted.
Look at the following hadith on page 87 of
Mishkat, volume 2.
Jabir, quoting the Prophet said: "The Jews used to
say when one sodomises one's wife, the children
are born with squinted eyes, but Allah sent this
verse which says: "Your wives are your tillage,
come to your tillage from any side you like."
For the satisfaction of readers, I may add that
the verse referred to in the above quoted hadith
is to be found in the Koran (The Cow, 2: 220).
This discussion explains how Islam exploits the
psychological weakness of man for sex, and
prescribes Jehad as the sure way of getting into
paradise, the abode of the most luxurious sex. Yet
it claims to be the Divine code of enforcing
virtue and forbidding vice!
Sex-after-death, which is a speciality of Islam,
requires an investigation into the concept of
Jehad, which is fundamentally connected with
carnal delights.
In a rather amusing piece at http://www.arabnews.com/arabview (Is
Beheading Really the Punishment for Homosexuality in Saudi Arabia By
Mubarak Dahir, syndicated column, December, 2002) Mr. Dahir details the
great lengths Muslim men in Saudi Arabia go to in order to "hide" their
"Gay" lifestyle - since the OFFICIAL PENALTY For Homosexuality is
BEHEADING in the Saudi Kingdom.
In another hysterical piece at BBCNEWS.COM the presence of YOUNG BOYS
in "Palestine" working as MALE PROSTITUTES (for Hamas and Islamic
Jihad) was also detailed lending additional fuel to the fire. You can
also find articles at BBCNEWS on the "Islamic Colleges" of Pakistan and
the COMMON PEDOPHELIA that has been practiced in the "Stans" of Central
Asia by various "warlord" groups for centuries. (all primarily "Muslim"
nations)
Visit:
http://groups.yahoo.com/queejihad
http://groups.yahoo.com/gayjordanians
http://groups.yahoo.com/gayrightsforalqaedaprisoners
These few sites are ABUNDANT with MUSLIM HOMOSEXUALS so you may judge
for yourself.
The Islamist performs his "Jihad" in bombings, killings, murder and
mayhem in order to get to 'heaven" where THE MUSLIM MAN WILL ENJOY
UNLIMITED SEX FOR ETERNITY!
The Koran is also replete with descriptions of ENDLESS GLUTTONY in
"Heaven" though NO MENTION OF PRAYER, WORSHIP or ONENESS WITH
ALLAH(God) is made at all.
Christians and Jews also believe in HEAVEN with GOD - but NOT AS AN
ETERNITY OF CARNAL LUSTS AND THE FULFILLMENT OF BANEFUL DESIRES.
So are MUSLIMS HOMOSEXUALS? Judge this for yourself - but just
remember:
THE TERRORISTS ARE QUEERS ! (it gets awfully lonely in the cave)
Let us recall the words of the Prophets:
"Cursed is the man who trusts in human beings,
who SEEKS HIS STRENGTH IN FLESH,
whose HEART turns AWAY FROM THE LORD.
He is like a barren bush in the desert,
That enjoys no change of season.
Bring upon them the DAY OF MISFORTUNE,
CRUSH THEM WITH REPEATED DESTRUCTION."
Jeremiah 17:5,6;18
Praise the Lord and God Bless America, George M Weinert V
"Rightousness exalteth a nation, but Sin is a reproach to any People"
(Proverbs 16:34)
Since most Muslims have intellectual and educational development that
is often quite close to:
Apes
cows in heat
dogs
rabbits
lions
horses
The presence of wide-spread HOMOSEXUALITY should be no surprise.
"Islamic" society enforces STRICT segregation of men and women - in the
name of "purity of women" and these draconian practices leave young men
DEVOID of female companionship and FREE to explore their nascent
homosexual urges
This "high morality" Is in REALITY HIGH HYPOCRISY - since the RIGID
enforcement of Segregation of the Sexes results in HOMOSEXUAL
FORNICATION - widely practiced in the ARAB STREET
Arab Muslims, in particular have VERY TINY "Poles" (sex organs) and
evidence of WIDE-SPREAD PHALLIC INFERIORITY PROBLEMS is nearly
ubiquitous
Residents of the "Arab Street" bear a very close relationship to the
early primates with many STILL LIVING IN CAVES and MUD HUTS
Islamists, though NOT ALL MUSLIMS have no idea of "Morality" at all and
have replaced any concepts of "Moral Absolutes" with their "Global
Jihad" doctrine of Murder and Chaos
This is why they call ANAL INTERCOURSE "Greek"
Overpopulation is currently a quite SEVERE CRISIS amongst the Arabs
Pedophlelia involving young, poor and homeless boys and "Islamic
Clerics" (imams, mullahs) is acommon practice in the "Madrassahs" of
Pakistan and Afghanistan and the use of TEENAGE BOYS as HOMOSEXUAL
CONCUBINES is a centuries old tradition in the "Stans" of Central Asia
The Writings of The late Ayatollah Khomeini are REPLETE with SPECIFIC
instructions regarding SODOMY WITH YOUNG BOYS (and sex with animals) -
all performed in "Proper Islamic" fashion of course
The 21st century "Global Jihad" is thus SIMPLY AN ATTEMPT by the
ISLAMISTS to secure an ETERNITY OF FORNICATION - they BLOW THEMSELVES
UP TO REACH PARADISE and a HEAVEN FILLED WITH LUST AND GLUTTONY
.
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