Re: Too Much Medicare "Care" Again

In article <27ZNh.18035$Jl.2812@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
George Conklin <georgeconklin1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Skeptic" <bcs002b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"George Conklin" <georgeconklin1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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We have known that other nations that spend less on medical care get
better
results. Once again we can see why with this following report:

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Let's talk about PSA.

Fact - prostate cancer kills people. Fact - screening with PSA detects
more
prostate cancer than not screening with PSA. Fact - there have been
randomized controlled done comparing, after a diagnosis of prostate
cancer,
men with no surgery vs. men who undergo surgery. This has shown a clear
overall and disease specific survival for those treated with surgery.

So we KNOW operating on prostate cancer saves lives.

Actually you should all up the Feds and have them call of the PIVOT studies
since you already know what they are going to show. Do you have ESP too?
Or do you just believe in predistination with you serving the role of God?

The question of what procedure is best for that particular
patient is unlikely to be answered in the next century, and
probably not in the next millennium. It is not a "scientific"
question of whether there is a "significant difference"; it
is a question what to do NOW for a particular patient, and
even if all the physical evidence is the same, the patient's
value system can make big differences.

You put too much faith in crude statistical methods; as a
statistician, I KNOW why they very often give wrong results,
and also, we cannot wait forever.


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