Re: Hospitals Hose Uninsured: For Herman
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- Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:28:38 GMT
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Tonight's 60 Minutes on CBS gave the case of the uninsured
comparisonhitthey
a
hospital for care.
Hospitals keep their list prices secret so you cannot
discountsashop.
You or I can call any clinic at any hospital and request the
cost
of
office.visit/procedure. It is readily available through the business
forIn
fact, it is often encouraged.
The program said that in fact for in-patients such a list is
not
available easily or at all.
I didn't see the program so I only have your post to respond to.
As
inpatients, the social workers on any inpatient unit are responsibethis
for
very task. Not only can they get you prices/costs but if yhouafford
can't
to pay, they try to figure out ways to assist.
Then they charge everyone the same, but offer automatic
Sam'sto
insurance companies, but bill the uninsured the full amount.
It's like a large family of 12 buying in bulk from Costco or
It'saClubvs.
an individual going to the local supermarket. The large family
gets
InsuranceIn a labor-intensive situation, there is no such thing as bulkdiscount due to volume.I know the excuse. We all do. Cash customers get hosed.
Do you understand the concept of bulk purchasing?
purchasing.
Bulk purchasing exists just as does the Statue of Liberty.
Contracts -
large ones - are negotiated b/w hospitals and insurance carriers.
companies are often in a power position for such negotiations and havebeen
forcing lower and lower payments for services. Same with clinics.
insuranceactually *illegal* for two different practices to eventhe
discuss/disclose
terms of their contracts with another practice, although the insurance
company has free access to what contracts the practice has with other
insurers.
You want some change? Start with loosening the stranglehold of
verycompanies over the medical community which is helping drive healthcarecosts
upward.
The insurance companies are the only group which is helping to control
costs, but I admit quite poorly and at some point the upward spiral of
fees
for doctors and hospitals must stop. However, the AMA has been very,
willgood at keeping medical pay at the super-premium level.
Physician reimbursements decreased 4% last year thanks to congress and
decrease another 2% next year and 2% the following year. But don't letReimbursements are still too high.
facts stop your verbal diarrhea.
I'll read that as, "wow, I didn't know that piece of information and I guess
I was wrong".
.
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