Re: Make Medical school FREE !!


"George Conklin" <georgeconklin1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >>>> Some good points. I also wonder why the medical field is held to a
>> >>>> different financial standard than any other field. People don't get
>> >>>> cheesed out when insurance companies, for instance, charge a higher
>> >>>> rate or the price of milk goes up. The public may groan and
> complain,
>> >>>> but they end up paying the cost.
>> >>>
>> >>> Of course, if we sold cars, milk and everything else at twice the
>> >>> price, then you would have something to complain about. But medical
>> >>> care in the USA costs twice as much as average for industrial
>> >>> nations,
>> >>> and the results are worse too. We do not have the 'best' medical
>> >>> care
>> >>> in the world---only the most expensive.
>> >>
>> >> The medical care in the US is as good as any other nation - there just
>> >> isn't the same extent of coverage.
>> >>
>> > Of course, the price is twice as much and yes, it probably is about
>> > as
>> > good for the middle class. If you want your knee operated on in the
> USA,
>> > you can get it done faster.
>>
>> Faster and with just as good results as any other country... and better
> than
>> most.
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> If you look at issues such as optional hip replacements, for example, a
> delay is hardly the issue since the need slowly builds up over the years.
> Even the NHS takes care of broken hips quickly.

You brought up speed, not me. So long as you recognize it's not done any
better anywhere else.

>> > Overall, unfortunately, the results are not as good as expected and
> maybe,
>> > just maybe, the lack of coverage is the reason.
>>
>> Of course it is. This is purely an issue of how many people get coverage
>> ... not the quality of care given to those cared for.
>>
> A system as a whole is measured by how well it takes care of a
> population, not how well it takes care of a few members of the population.

There are different ways to measure different issues/topics. What you are
trying to measure is quantity of healthcare. The earlier parts of your
post, however, were discussing quality of healthcare. How I measure those
things - and what is typically generally accepted - is to measure quantity
by how many people receive various levels of insurance and quality based on
outcomes. Our outcomes - example laparascopic cholecystectomies - are just
as good or better than any other nation. The number of people insured,
however, is less than many other nations. But don't forget, in those other
nations all people contribute to healthcare whereas in the US you need to
pay to receive, for the most part.


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