Re: Antibiotic Rights - not so fast Rita...


"Skeptic" <bcs002b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I don't like your selective responding and cutting the rest of the post.
> Here's the rest of the post you, um, ignored.
>
> > "~Rita" <deuman04@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:zeednZ2dnZ0ocF-mnZ2dnUIvat-dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> "Skeptic" wrote in message news:XxJJe.7178$084.5417@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >> During my husband's Second tumor-produced cancer the vision of God did
> >> appear. Hubby was given several antibiotics. I thought it strange that
> >> none
> >> of them were antitumor/antiviral such as Bleomycin and Doxorubicin.
> >
> > you are dense. These not antimicrobials, they are chemotherapeutics.
>
> I'm sorry Rita.... you seem to have missed this part. Your response?
>
> >> I'm not looking for free antibiotics. I would like the right to
purchase the antibiotics of my choice!

Bleomycin, Doxorubicin, streptomycin and a few others, along with the
BCG tuberculosis vaccine, which I asked for several years ago.

> > You, Rita, are the absolute epitome as to why such medications will
NEVER
> > be available without a prescription and professional (medical) advice.
> > You can't separate an antibiotic from a chemotherapeutic. You tell us
you
> > base your need for medications on what "god" told in you a dream.
You'd
> > have sore throat and give yourself a course of bleomycin ... and get
nasty
> > lung disease... for which you'd then self treat with doxorubicin and get
> > cardiomyopathy. Cost to society would be tens of thousands of dollars,
> > maybe millions after your surgical complicatons secondary to having
> > restrictive lung disease from bleomycin. That's just financial
> > reasoning.... leaving alone the fact that you'd kill yourself in short
> > order.

A century ago, the #1 disease killer in the United States of America (USA)
was caused by a bacterial infection, and back then Hodgkin's disease was
believed to be caused by a bacterial infection. My mother's sister died of
Hodgkin's disease in 1970, which stimulated my interest as to how long this
disease had been recorded. The antibiotic Adriamycin was discovered then,
but Aunt was treated with radiation and surgery. Then it was call produced
by a viral infection. I believe that HD can be caused by both. Infection is
infection. Anyway after a 100 years of taxpayer's money and billions of US
private contribution dollars, heart disease became the #1 disease killer,
with cancer making a rapid challenge for first place. Lung disease ranks
third, in Hubby's August 2005 case, there are no antibiotic cures. Two
conversations often take place, 1) Hubby's first cancer in 1983, and
2) how bacteria try to survive.

In 1982, there were a lot of hospital and doctor trips when Hubby had his
large neck tumor. By 1983 there were several antitumor antibiotics, but the
Crittenton Hospitals hematologist Dr. McCutcheon used blood transfusions.
The blood was tested prior to usage and Hubby ended up with enough infection
to disintegrate bones. I felt that a medical specialist that withheld needed
antibiotics and lied about blood test was a Health Saboteur. Hubby was
transported to another hospital. When he would go for tests, the new
hematologist would write 4th stage. I assumed that was for the lab to be
more careful and be as accurate as possible. So I asked the American Cancer
Society the odds of living through what they called "Always fatal". The
pleasant phone voice answered: "A half to one percent."

> > No, self medication with chemotherapy - or antibiotics, which to you
seems
> > to be all the same thing - can not happen... and people like you are the
> > explanation why. You will kill yourself. People will try to medicate
> > their children and kill them - or leave them severely mentally and/or
> > physically handicapped. You will medicate your parents who trust you -
> > and you will kill them. Medications are not vitamins. They are
dangerous
> > things and there is a reason why every respected health care system in
the
> > world requires prescriptions.

I referred to the antibiotics that you call "A chemotherapeutic", Blemocin
and Doxorubicin were (and always will be) antibiotics. I found the
Doxorubicin (patent in 1968 by an Italian pharmaceutical company) most
interesting because it's made from a mutant bacterium. I feel that if I,
and/or anyone else living in the USA, had the right to antibiotic choice,
more antibiotics would be made from the mutant germs. Sad the two
antibiotics mentioned were stifled.


> Rebuttal? This thread is your doing... are you going to lay down and die
> the first time someone explains to you why we need such rules? C'mon...


No rebuttals. I thank you for the conversation.

In 1983, it was very important that a person have his/her medical records,
especially blood test. The labs were using extremely large test ranges, so a
person had to figure his/her own personal range. From then to now, Hubby's
doctors don't want to give him copies. The last time Hubby asked (we were
going on vacation), the doctor stated that he didn't have any copies. The
place was a short distance. Hubby offered to go get them, because he wanted
a copy too. The doctor told him no, they would charge Hubby an arm and a
leg. Changing the subject to when a friend asked for a medical copy to hand
carry to another doctor, the charge was $60.

I feel that a copy of the medical records should be given to the patient as
a part of the service. They won't give you a record copy, but they'll say
"Thank you for letting us service you." Sounds like they were servicing a
car, yet unlike a car service, they won't give you a copy of the service
done.

Returning back to the century-old taxpayer funded disease studies; it was
learned that United States people could accept watching love ones die
prematurely to the #1 bacterial TB infections and never ask that
taxpayers money be used to discover a vaccine.


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