Re: Antibiotic Rights
- From: "Skeptic" <bcs002b@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:58:15 GMT
"~Rita" <deuman04@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "> > "Skeptic" wrote in message>> Everyone gets bacterial infections. It
> is not a family trait.
>
> answer:
I didn't ask a question.
> I feel that in the 1950's it was discovered that some
> cancers and heart disease were caused by bacterial infections.
> Example: Hodgin's disease was known as a blood disease,
The cause of HD is officially uknown. There are a number of factors that
certainly seem to play contributing roles. NONE of them are bacterial
infections. One of them is infection with the Epstein-Barr virus - for
which there is no "antibiotic" treatment anyway.
> and Endocarditis was known as a bacterial produced
> Heart disease.
Endocarditis is an infection of the heart valves. A bacterial infection of
the heart valves can destroy the heart valves much like a bacterial of the
skin can destroy the involved skin, etc. This has nothing to do with the
topic at hand.
>> > In the 1950's an e-coli infection was known to cause tumors.
>>
>> What tumor was caused by an E-coli infection? Give your proof.
> It was something that I had heard in the 1950's.
Wasn't it around the same time aliens supposedly crashed in New Mexico? Is
that how you base your view of the world... "something I heard in the
50's"??? You know the "War of the Worlds" was a hoax, right? It didn't
actually happen.
Ecoli is a bacteria. It causes bacterial infections, not cancer.
Understand?
>> > It's always been known that doctors could victimize patients.
>>
>> Politicians can victimize people. As can lawyers. As can any
>> profession.
>> Patients can victimize doctors even.
>>
>> > Health sabotage seems to be omitted from our vocabulary.
>>
>> health and sabotage are both words in the dictionary.
>
>> > I always use my Husband's 1982 treatment that reflected how a doctor
> could discover new diseases by simply withholding antitumor antibiotics.
>>
>> and what, exactly, is an "antitumor antibiotic"? lol...
> Bleomycin is an antitumor antibiotic. Doxorubicin is also an antitumor
> with antiviral activity. I have a very nice write-up from US Library
> that I would gladly share with you.
Doxorubicin - more commonly known by its trade name Adriamycin - is an
anti-neoplastic drug. That's a fancy way of saying a cancer drug - or
"chemotherapy".
Below I have pasted in known and accepted uses of the medication from
UpToDate:
Treatment of leukemias, lymphomas, multiple myeloma, osseous and nonosseous
sarcomas, mesotheliomas, germ cell tumors of the ovary or testis, and
carcinomas of the head and neck, thyroid, lung, breast, stomach, pancreas,
liver, ovary, bladder, prostate, uterus, and neuroblastoma
The chief mechanism of action is inhibition of an enzyme called
Topoisomerase II. Though my bacterial biology is quite rusty, I don't
believe that enzyme even exists in bacteria (or virii). I am aware of some
very off label work being done with adriamycin - and other drugs - for
treatment of refractory herpes (HSV) infections. I won't comment further on
these except to say it is not an accepted use of the medication and I hope
it is being done with extreme caution as the known adverse effects of
adriamycin can be quite severe.
Here is a patient friendly website with information on this drug which I
urge you to read before proclaiming yourself some sort of guru:
http://www.drugs.com/MTM/doxorubicin.html
>> > With Hubby's list of illnesses, you would think that he would go to
>> > another country for treatment.
>>
>> huh?
>>
>> > 1982 (September) Cellulitis, which appeared on the front of Hubby's
> right leg and was caused by blood abnormalities that resulted in Hubby's
> spending 10 days in isolation. No antibiotics were prescribed.
> There were severalblood abnormal that were present at the same
> time of the Cellulitis.
>>
>> Cellulitis is not caused by blood anbnormalities. It is a skin infection
>> which is NOT spread hematologically. Period. Your information is wrong,
>> plain and simple.
>
>
>> ... list of alleged medical conditions snipped ... likely either
> fabricated or inaccurate.
> Blue Cross of Michigan paid for all or some portion of all the services.
> lol.
I'm sorry, is that supposed to mean something? What your insurance coverage
is or is not is not related to this topic. I will repeat, cellulitis is an
infection of the skin. It is not a cancer. People with cancer and who are
receiving treatment tend to have weakened immue responses and may thus be
more prone to such infections, but that in and of itself is not "cancer".
>> > 2005 Pre-Phenomena-like condition (Primarily treated with steroids).
> When the condition was first noticed, I tried to give him some Mexicillin.
>> > Mexicillin would be better than no antibiotics at all.
>>
>> "Pre-phenomena-like condition"???
>
> When doctors state Pre-phenomena, I find that as scarey
> as Pre-Cancer (a term used in 1982).
I have never heard of that term nor read of it in any book or journal.
Pre-cancerous conditions certainly do exist and they should scare you - as
they can develop (but not necessarily) develop into cancer.
>>There is no such thing as
>> "mexicillin".... is this a penicillin product imported from Mexico?
>
> I had a hand infection. The doctor prescribed a steroid cream,
> which I was using for several months and the skin problem
> wasn't going away.
I repeat, mexicillin is a made up name. You fabricated it. There is no
such thing.
Hand infections are not - and have not been - treated with steroid creams.
Exema can be, as can other dermatologic conditions.
> I wanted a streptomycin ointment, so I settled for a
> Mexican penicillin ointment, and penicillin and ampicillin pills.
A google search for amoxicillin reveals 824,000 results. A google search
for mexicillin reveals one - and it was posted by you. More fabrication.
> In one week, the skin problem disappeared.
> Yes, Mexicillin is a joke: What US citizen would go to
> a foreign country to purchase antibiotics, because he/she
> feels that steroids aren't a proper infection treatment?
So it's a joke or it isn't? Or you're now saying it is because you've been
caught in your little lie? Steroids are appropriate treatment for some skin
conditions and not others.
>> It's nice that you're trying to partake in an adult conversation, but you
>> should get a clue of what you're talking about first.
> Thank you for being so patient with me.
Do you still believe god came to you in a dream and recommended
streptomycin?
.
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