Re: First Draft of the US Constitution in Philadelphia, May 29th 1787, Revealing the Intentions and Nonintentions of the Framers of It

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On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:52:20 -0500, nraclaptrap
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The following quotes are all from people who were major
influences on one of both of the documnets in question.
Including Madison.

"They [proposed Bill of Rights] relate 1st. to private
rights....the great object in view is to limit and qualify the
powers of government..." 8 June 1789 (The Papers of James
Madison,

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed -
unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are
afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The
Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas
Jefferson,

"...to disarm the people - that was the best and most
effectual way to enslave them." (George Mason, 3 Elliot,
Debates at 380)

The Constitution shall never be construed....to prevent the
people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from
keeping their own arms" (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings
in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87)

The great object is that every man be armed" and "everyone who
is able may have a gun." (Patrick Henry, in the Virginia
Convention on the ratification of the Constitution. Debates
and other Proceedings of the Convention of Virginia,...

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself.
They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone
under independence (George Washington)

(The American Colonies were) "all democratic governments,
where the power is in the hands of the people and where there
is not the least difficulty or jealousy about putting arms
into the hands of every man in the country. (George Mason)

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to
keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
against tyranny in government." (Thomas Jefferson Papers p.
334

"Arms in the hands of citizens (may) be used at individual
discretion...in private self-defense..." 1788(A Defense of the
Constitution of the Government of the USA, p.471 John Adams.

Those are all excellent quotes

By which you mean fake quotes. Pick one and see if you can post
the full paragraph or 10 lines before and 10 after. Just cut &
paste. I bet 80% of those quotes are fake or misleading.

Next.

Any quote that just happens to prove you wrong

POST ONE! You always post fake quotes.

What would be the point, I and many others have already done so.
You have neither the class or wisdom to acknowledge them.

Hell, as the person claiming the quotes are fake.....isn't his
obligation to now prove his allegation and produce evidence to show
the quotes are fake?

Hell yes and I've stuck those fake quotes up your rightwing nostrils
many times - but no rightwing shillbots have ever AFAIK successfully
defended their fake-ass quotes.

Why don't you take a poke at this one, Great Gosling? Here's what
some sniffling idiot posted as god's truth from your side:

"'Arms in the hands of citizens (may) be used at individual
discretion...in private self-defense...' 1788(A Defense of the
Constitution of the Government of the USA, p.471 John Adams."

I knew it's fake because I often post that Adams quote, correctly, in
full context.

I think it is, and I also think that Lee isn't able to do it.

GunCite says you're a liar. Prove them wrong.

The only thing you post

Is how you lie about the US Constitution.


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