Re: 2010 is going to be a make or break year for Gun Control

Bill Smith <quandary@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:17:14 -0400, Demon Buddha <Nobody@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

RD (The Sandman) wrote:

However, I do believe the laws regarding guns and *violent* criminals

If you mean denial of possession by someone convicted of a violent
crime, I'd say that it depends. A right is a right no matter who you
are or what you may have once done. If a convict is set free to be
amongst the rest of us he should be restored to full rights. If a guy
is a repeat offender, one would hope that sentencing would ramp up once
the pattern became apparent. If a guy murdered someone, pays his debt
and is released, I see no reason he should not be restored to full
rights. He, too, has the right to self defense and the means thereof.
If he misuses a gun again, back to the slam. It is the only thing that
makes sense to me. I thought that along with "innocent until proven
guilty", there was "payment of criminal debt". Making someone pay
after
release from prison doesn't seem right. I would say we should be a bit
harder on recidivism. Spring all the pot smokers and start putting
real
criminals in cells. Call me crazy.

I don't think gun ownership rights should be automatically restored to
a violent felon, but there should be a procedure for doing so. Once a
person exhibits violent tendencies, it doesn't just go away with a
stretch in stony lonesome. If a felon keeps his nose clean for some
period of time (easily determined from criminal records) it is
unlikely that they will offend again and should have their rights
restored. Civilization is, in part, the agreement between people not
to do violence to one another and an agreement to punish those that
break this covenant. Once broken, I think the offender must earn, with
his punishment and subsequent good behavior, the return of the rights
he threw away.

In many states, rights may be restored via petition to the court or a
judge. Recent history is reviewed, law enforcement is involved and
rights may well be restored. That, however, doesn't make the federal ban
on possession of a firearm go away. I believe that is a separate process
but have had no reason to check on what it is.

--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

"Fear is the foundation of most governments."

President John Adams
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