Re: There is NO "Gun Show Loophole" and it is dishonest to claim there is


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All gun control is worthless anyway so the entire argument push
for "more gun control" of any kind is dishonest.

None of the CDC, the National Academy of Sciences of Sciences, nor
DoJ
were able to find that ANY gun control reduces VIOLENT CRIME,
SUICIDE or ACCIDENTS in any significant manner.

Unless you have statements other than I have seen, that is somewhat
different from the claim that I thought was made. The claim I saw
was
that no current *study* on gun control indicates any *causal*
effect
on
violent crime in either direction by gun control laws. They also
added
the statement that more studies were needed. Just a bit different
than
what you stated. I am perfectly willing to be updated if you have
newer
information than I do.

Study after study after study cannot show a STATISTICALLY
significant relationship that gun control works.

There is no proof that ANY gun control works.

**Incorrect. Since the 1996 gun control laws were enacted in
Australia,
the
following has occured:

* Murder, via gunshot. Down.
* Attempted murder, via gunshot. Down.
* Robbery, via the use of guns. Down.
* Theft of guns from civilians. Substantially down.
* Mass murder, via gunshot. Dramatically down (to zero, in fact)

Now prove that these were cause by gun control.

Remember: Correlation does not imply Causality.

But you have referrred to Lott's results and he never proved causation.
Why
do you demand it from other studies?

Pay attention dummy; trevorboy didn't post a "study" - just some data.

I didn't claim he posted a "study", odiousfart you LIAR

Pay attention dummy boy. trevorboy posted a set of data. The
responder simply pointed out that "Correlation does not imply
Causality"

Then you make reference to his "demand" for a study.

That would be because he wrote "Now prove that these were cause by gun
control."


You are still having reading comprehension problems

<s***> Sure odiousfart. ROTFLMAO - why do you keep calling me a L A I R?
You are are a dyslexic and incompetent buffoon.



, but he obviously
studied the data and described what he saw.

trevorboy sees what he wants to see

ROTFLMAO - do you see L I A R or L A I R, odiousfart.



"You truly are a pathological lair..." - odiousfart over-extends his
ability by trying to use a word with more than 3 letters.

"Inability of Australians to buy a gun for the purpose of self defense."
- odiousfart's contribution to "positive effects of Australian gun laws"

"I am not dead" - odiousfart's self-centred and self obsessed gun loon
response to the fact that his family and community face 4 times the risk of
being killed via homicide than Australians.

"You made a statement and I pointed out, correctly, that to do so is
illegal." - netcop odiousfart shows his understanding of freedom of speech

"Criminals don't obey the law" - deep thought from odiousfart.

Odiousfart writes "Murder rate has always been my interest"
but also says
"I have always addressed homicide rate" - you truly are a pathological LIAR



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