Re: Australia's Gun Laws: Little Effect


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On Fri, 09 May 2008 00:08:38 GMT, "Blinky Bill" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


"Phil Smythe" <smytph@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I hate to tell you Bill but you're wasting your time trying to educate
Glenn from the Ozarks.

I already had my suspicions - thanks for confirming that I am not the only
person who seems him that way.


He squints at a graph and proclaims there's a definite trend, but when
the authors of the graph say something different he reckons they are
wrong.

Indeed - sometimes he claims to disagree with the authors, but his
disagreement lasts only as long as his current argument. A paragraph later
he will make statements that depend on **agreement** with what the authors
wrote.

LOL Are you related to trevorboy? Another pathological liar?

ROFLMAO Are you related to sheep and Joke-melb and fucknMuddledagain ?
Another pathological idiot?





According to the ABS, using data up to 1998;

"There was a long-term decline during the first half of the twentieth
century, with the homicide rate being the lowest during the period of
World War II (1939-1945). The rate then increased substantially to a
plateau of about 1.5 per 100,000 population in the 1950s and 1960s. An
upward trend occurred during the 1970s, reaching the level of around
2.0 per 100,000 population at the end of that decade. Since then, the
rate has remained relatively stable, except for two temporary
fluctuations in the 1980s. One of those temporary fluctuations
resulted in the highest homicide rate recorded in Australia (rate of
2.4 per 100,000 population in 1988)."

We both know that the rate is now (10 years post the ABS statement) at
historic lows. The ABS's words "Since then (end of the '70's), the
rate has remained relatively stable" fly in the face of Glenn's
repeated shrieking that the rate was already down pre-1996. He can't
come to grips with the word "stable" as used by the experts.


Indeed - his ability to deny reality is astounding.

Let's see the reality. Your "experts" (in your own quote) state the
homicide rate is/has been relatively stable.

Not my quote odiousfart - the previous poster's. Learn to read attributions


So much for any claim that 96 gun control laws affetced the rate.

So now you accept their claim - another flip-flop.
The quote comes from a 1998 report - which means it considers two years
post 96 gun laws data, but doesn't consider the subsequent 10 years. Their
opinion and your conclusion are 10 years out of date, but that would
surprise no-one. You certainly aren't going to let new information enter
that dormant organ within your thick skull, are you, especially if it
contradicts your fundamentalist views.



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